HCG - 250 vs 500

[dreadnok89]

Don't forget dudes if your primary hcg will do nothing for you. I have noticed nothing on it. And I noticed when my estrogen was 15 to 20 I felt great!

[roxer]

Don't forget dudes if your primary hcg will do nothing for you. I have noticed nothing on it.

This is the part that's hard to get past. So while on clomid for 6 months, my test was 300ng/dl highest. There is some test being made by the testes, right? So at a minimum, even if I am primary and can only produce 300ng/dl, hCG should help some? If I am primary, will this preclude me from creating sperm (azoospermia) with hCG? My main hope is that hCG will help me keep some sperm production going. I think getting hMG will be an uphill battle royal.

[2Sox]

This is the part that's hard to get past. So while on clomid for 6 months, my test was 300ng/dl highest. There is some test being made by the testes, right? So at a minimum, even if I am primary and can only produce 300ng/dl, hCG should help some? If I am primary, will this preclude me from creating sperm (azoospermia) with hCG? My main hope is that hCG will help me keep some sperm production going. I think getting hMG will be an uphill battle royal.

hCG had a very positive effect on me. My scrotum came back and my stones got firmer and larger but never returned to normal - and I've been using it since March. I started hCG about 9 months into TRT and my nuts really shrunk during that time. My urologist never bothered to test me for primary or secondary and I didn't know enough at the time to even ask. Things are different now. As I'm 65, and have no other health issues at all, I'm assuming I'm both primary and secondary to a degree. It's my understanding that this is possible.

A very important benefit for me is that hCG makes for very good, normal orgasms. When I was on TRT before taking hCG, I felt something was definitely missing; wasn't like before. As soon as I started hCG, I felt the difference immediately.

Now regarding sperm production, I understand that hCG definitely helps. But if you really want to conceive, you should take hMG - which stimulates the Sertoli cells that are responsible for sperm production. Fertility clinics prescribe it and it's expensive, but if you want children this would help matters. If you really searched, you'd be able to get it overseas. It's called hMG Massone - the manufacturer. I'd advise against buying a no name from China.

[kelkel]

Don't forget dudes if your primary hcg will do nothing for you. I have noticed nothing on it. And I noticed when my estrogen was 15 to 20 I felt great!

Correct to a point.

HCG has neurological benefits as well. There are LH receptors throughout your body and in your brain.

[dreadnok89]

Correct to a point.

HCG has neurological benefits as well. There are LH receptors throughout your body and in your brain.

OK, I just meant effect to your testes. Maybe I just don't mix mine right. And you can still produce sperm with low T. I know I did.

[kelkel]

OK, I just meant effect to your testes. Maybe I just don't mix mine right. And you can still produce sperm with low T. I know I did.

You are correct. Mine never did come back to normal size due to the damage done from basically being shut down via a tumor. Flip side is smaller nuts make other items close by look bigger. Lose - win thing.

[ZenFitness]

You are correct. Mine never did come back to normal size due to the damage done from basically being shut down via a tumor. Flip side is smaller nuts make other items close by look bigger. Lose - win thing.

Always a tradeoff in life

Hey kelkel, have you noticed a difference in quality or effectiveness from hCG sources? My first batch was name-brand (App) and my second batch was compounded at the pharmacy (saves me $150 a pop). So far I think everything is the same, but curious about your (or anyone else's) experience. I'm not referring to some non-prescription overseas hCG... this is legit prescription stuff domestic in the US.

[ImpeccableChaos]

You are correct. Mine never did come back to normal size due to the damage done from basically being shut down via a tumor. Flip side is smaller nuts make other items close by look bigger. Lose - win thing.

I have been on TRT for 5 -6 yrs. I just started HCG about 6 weeks ago 250iu twice a week. Mine have gotten a little bigger but not as big as before and I don't mind really. It's just that they had gotten tiny for goodness sake!. Do you think 5 yrs is too long for them to return to normal? And should I up thre dose of HCG?

[ZenFitness]

I have been on TRT for 5 -6 yrs. I just started HCG about 6 weeks ago 250iu twice a week. Mine have gotten a little bigger but not as big as before and I don't mind really. It's just that they had gotten tiny for goodness sake!. Do you think 5 yrs is too long for them to return to normal? And should I up thre dose of HCG?

I don't think you'll get to "normal" on 250 iU a week. When I ran 250 iU every day it seemed to be close, but that is quite a bit of hCG IMO. I'd rather sacrifice a little size and keep my E2 in check. That said, there are days that the family jewels seem to shine like they used to in terms of size... nuts seem to oscillate a bit in size at different times of the day and different days of the week.