Regarding what you highlighted above, I guess I could have gone deeper. It inferred that these laws, rules, ordinances, etc. have been through the court system via challenges, case law, etc. And I agree, they are no smarter than us but they are our "current" elected officials. At least until the next election. Politics anymore just disgusts me.

We have to agree to disagree with the assault aspect of this conversation. It may not work in Chicago or Camden, NJ but it does elsewhere. Dealing with hardened criminals, gangs, etc is quite different than dealing with normal society. Totally different set of ethics and morality that does not apply to mainstream America, IMHO. Funny, my extended family is all from Chicago and I've lived near and I'm very familiar with Camden. Glad to be out of Jersey now though....