Mass cycle

[1wheelr1]

if you have experience with tren/test.

You could do test prop 50mg EOD with tren ace 150mg EOD for 8 weeks or 12 weeks of enanthate with d-bol ad kickstart for 4 week. Or if you feel ok you could switch d-bol for anadrol.

if you eat enough tren will do wonder.

If not test prop/NPP is great too.

(npp is a short estered nandrolone while deca is a long ester of nandrolone.) NPP stands for nandrolone phenyl-propionate

their is no "dont use tren" If you can handle it then go ahead.

I like low test high tren(only what I've read on and experience of people.) seems the best way to avoid undesirable side effect, and maximize the gains.
but the dose will be dependant on how you react with it.

but I personnally think that 150mg EOD tren = 2625 mg of test is plenty for anyone...

I'm leaning toward tren/test
Why not test-e! It's much cheaper.
Wouldn't more test equal a little extra size?

[qscgugcsq]

I'm leaning toward tren/test
Why not test-e! It's much cheaper.
Wouldn't more test equal a little extra size?

Test-e it's cheaper but longer to kick-in(where the use of d-bol or anadrol comes interesting)
I like short ester because it seems(I'm not talking from MY experience, only from what I've read) to have less side effect and kicks in faster. Fast in, Fast out

If you prefer long ester, it's strictly up to you.

And yes and no... More test will give more gain, however also more side effect...
5% more gain for 40% more side effect do not worth in IMO.

And when you look at it.

50mg EOD test = 175mg/week + 2625mg worth of tren = 2800mg of test
or
150mg EOD = 525 + 2625 = worth of 3150mg of test

Having same amount of each, gives about 10% more on the total and gives bigger side effect...

and we all know that more is not necessarily better when AAS are concern. And you said you are worried about the price. So less test will cost less...

Your call, but I don't think it worth the side effect

[1wheelr1]

Test-e it's cheaper but longer to kick-in(where the use of d-bol or anadrol comes interesting)
I like short ester because it seems(I'm not talking from MY experience, only from what I've read) to have less side effect and kicks in faster. Fast in, Fast out

If you prefer long ester, it's strictly up to you.

And yes and no... More test will give more gain, however also more side effect...
5% more gain for 40% more side effect do not worth in IMO.

And when you look at it.

50mg EOD test = 175mg/week + 2625mg worth of tren = 2800mg of test
or
150mg EOD = 525 + 2625 = worth of 3150mg of test

Having same amount of each, gives about 10% more on the total and gives bigger side effect...

and we all know that more is not necessarily better when AAS are concern. And you said you are worried about the price. So less test will cost less...

Your call, but I don't think it worth the side effect

Thx bro, I'll take your advise and stick with test-p 50mg EOD and tren-a 150mg EOD.

[GymHero]

Thx bro, I'll take your advise and stick with test-p 50mg EOD and tren-a 150mg EOD.

I don't think you need 150mg of tren eod.. Why not just use 50-75mg eod? Everyone underestimates how powerful this shi t is...

[qscgugcsq]

I don't think you need 150mg of tren eod.. Why not just use 50-75mg eod? Everyone underestimates how powerful this shi t is...

on many post that I've read they advised a minimum of 300mg/week to make it worth it.

He says that he already had experience with it so I assume that a bit more could be beneficial.


But like I said I have no experience with tren so I can't confirm with any personal experience.

Only him know how he react at xxx dosage.

Plus, 75mg EOD = 225mg/weeks = 1125mg worth of test.

He seems to have some cycles under his belt so even if 1125mg seems massif, we can't efficiently compare tren to testosterone like that...

Personally If I ever consider tren, I will certainly use very low dose of it and grow dose through time.
but tren scare the shit out of me so I prefer to don't feel it at all that having too much...

[1wheelr1]

on many post that I've read they advised a minimum of 300mg/week to make it worth it.

He says that he already had experience with it so I assume that a bit more could be beneficial.

But like I said I have no experience with tren so I can't confirm with any personal experience.

Only him know how he react at xxx dosage.

Plus, 75mg EOD = 225mg/weeks = 1125mg worth of test.

He seems to have some cycles under his belt so even if 1125mg seems massif, we can't efficiently compare tren to testosterone like that...

Personally If I ever consider tren, I will certainly use very low dose of it and grow dose through time.
but tren scare the shit out of me so I prefer to don't feel it at all that having too much...

Plus, 75mg EOD = 225mg/weeks = 1125mg worth of test
What do you mean by this? How did you come up with the calculation?

[qscgugcsq]

Plus, 75mg EOD = 225mg/weeks = 1125mg worth of test
What do you mean by this? How did you come up with the calculation?

trenbolone is 5 times more anabolic/androgenic than testosterone

As simple as that, but like I said it do not represent really... with 500mg tren you won't have the same gain as 2 500mg test. But it gives a good idea.