First Cycle Critique Please

[dom1983]

Hey guys,

So I'd like to present to you my proposed first cycle. I have spent the previous few months prepping for this cycle by reading all I could, training hard and eating right.

Stats first

Height - 5'11
Weight - 89kg
Age - 29
BF% - 16%
Lift History - 3yrs
Cycle History - 0

Cycle

Week 1 - 12 Test-E @ 600mg p/week [300mg Monday Morning - 300mg Thursday Night]
Week 1 - 4 Dianabol @ 30mg p/day

Week 1 - 13 HCG @ 250ui [Twice Per Week]

Week 1 - 14 Aromasin @ 20mg p/day

PCT - [14 Days After Last Pin]

Clomid - 100 / 75 / 75 / 50
Nolva 40 / 20 / 20 / 20


This will be used for bulking and I am hoping my math and compounds are correct and through that I am able to minimize sides and increase gain retention.

[Gaspaco]

12 weeks for long ester IMO!!

Drop the dbol and run test only for first run.

Hcg whole cycle 250iu twice a week.

[Mp859]

Definetly longer with the test e
12-16 weeks


If your to run dbol no need to go over 30mg for your first run

Aromasin will be 12.5 or 25 mg

Pct shouldn't ever need o run 300mg clomid

Maybe first 3 days 150mg

[clarky.]

First avol were did you read up 300mg clomid no no no
long est 12 wk not 8wks
hcg 2x 250iu wk not ed
pct clomid 100 75 75 50 nolva 40 20 20 20. 14 days after your last pin

[dom1983]

Ok thanks for the heads up guys.

Based on your information I have edited the post to reflect the changes you suggested

[dom1983]

Ok this is exactly why I posted this, some great feedback I've very appreciative guys.

The 300mg clomid was read on one of the stickies on this site, there was a few conflicting choices so I went with the higher one and was hoping for feedback to correct any mistakes.

Thanks again guys!

[Mp859]

Ok thanks for the heads up guys.

Based on your information I have edited the post to reflect the changes you suggested

You may have To dose the aromasin 25mg eod/Ed depending on water retention and sides and since it is suicidal it should be run all the way through pct and even one week past your serm you don't have to worry about estrogen rebound with aromasin

If you just stop the ai right before pct your estrogen levels are going to go crazy during pct

Also make sure you wait long enough after your last pin to start pct generally 2 weeks

Also you may want to add something for cortisol to pct

[dom1983]

You may have To dose the aromasin 25mg eod/Ed depending on water retention and sides and since it is suicidal it should be run all the way through pct and even one week past your serm you don't have to worry about estrogen rebound with aromasin

If you just stop the ai right before pct your estrogen levels are going to go crazy during pct

Also make sure you wait long enough after your last pin to start pct generally 2 weeks

Also you may want to add something for cortisol to pct

Good point, what would you suggestion be then, should I slowly lower my amount of AI during PCT then as to release the estrogen back slowly?

[clarky.]

You do not need to run your AI through pct and maybe 1 wk past op the best thing you could do is read up and educate yourself and have a look at the beginner cycles

AI wk 1-12
hcg stop 3-4 days before pct
start pct 14 day's after your last pin

[dom1983]

You do not need to run your AI through pct and maybe 1 wk past op the best thing you could do is read up and educate yourself and have a look at the beginner cycles

Yea I will still be reading while I await the order, though you can understand my confusion when you say not to run the AI through PCT but another member says the opposite :P

I understand the point both are making and will definately look for a clear answer the best time to stop my AI before I start the cycle.

[clarky.]

Yes dom that would be confusing all the info you need is on this forum

[dom1983]

Ok so based on further feedback I have again made revisions, though after reading a thread by a banned member called Swifto on AI's I am confident that I am now squared on that front.

A massive thank you for the information you provided

[sagittarius]

I'm new here and I don't know too much about gear, but one of the first rules I learned on this site is that it is recommended to have the BF% under 15%.

[dom1983]

I'm new here and I don't know too much about gear, but one of the first rules I learned on this site is that it is recommended to have the BF% under 15%.

Generally speaking, but I have enough estrogen control going on to not worry too much about Gyno. And 16% isnt exactly far off :P