Updated bloods. 22 year old, no libido, weak erections, fatigue, bloating, puffy nipp

[100%]

Test 1055 ng/dl GOD BLESS YOU! I would want to make sure everything is good with your pituitary. It works both ways meaning a abnormality can make you produce more testosterone prolactin or less?

[VICREP]

I have had x-rays/scan and it all cleared.

I think my E2 and Prolactin were thrown out of whack by my epistane cycle and melanotan 2 use. Hopefully once I get them both stabilized again they will remain lower. Also I'm assuming if my E2 goes back down my Test will go back up. I have had test measured above 1200 ng/dl naturally.

[100%]

I have had x-rays/scan and it all cleared.

I think my E2 and Prolactin were thrown out of whack by my epistane cycle and melanotan 2 use. Hopefully once I get them both stabilized again they will remain lower. Also I'm assuming if my E2 goes back down my Test will go back up. I have had test measured above 1200 ng/dl naturally.

Be careful with stuff never know what your actually getting your naturally gifted hormone wise. Dont want to end up on trt for the rest of your life.

Epistane & P-Plex Analysis

Dietary supplements can be contaminated with stimulants or anabolic steroids that are not declared on their labels. Health concerns over the effects of these supplements continue to surface. In sports doping testing, gas chromatography/mass spectrometry (GC/MS) and liquid chromatography/mass spectrometry (LC/MS) have become powerful tools to identify steroids in dietary supplements.

Several research groups have identified steroids in dietary supplements, such as androst-4-ene-3,6,17- trione (6-OXO), 17α-methyl-5α-androst-2-en-17β-ol (desoxymethyltestosterone, Madol), 1-androgens (1-testosterone, 1-androstenediol etc.), 6α-methylandrostenedione or androsta-1,4,6-triene-3,17-dione. In 2009, 17β-hydroxyandrostano[3,2-c]isoxazole and 17β-hydroxyandrostano[2,3-d]isoxazole were identified in a supplement labelled with the wrong steric composition. These non-licensed and undeveloped toxic steroids tend to be marketed on the Internet. Diel et al. reported that desoxymethyltestosterone is a powerful anabolic steroid with serious toxic side effects.

The aim of this study was to investigate whether the content of two typical dietary supplements, EPISTANE and P-PLEX was correct. The steroids were characterized by GC/MS, LC/MS and NMR. Although the labelling of EPISTANE indicates that it contains 17alpha-methyl-2alpha, 3alpha-epithio-5alpha-androstane-17beta-ol only, 17alpha-methyl-2beta,3beta-epithio-5alpha-androstane-17beta-ol and desoxymethyltestosterone were identified in the supplement. The results showed that P-PLEX contained desoxymethyltestosterone and its isomer 17alpha-methyl-5alpha-androst-3-en-17beta-ol.


Okano M, Sato M, Ikekita A, Kageyama S. Analysis of non-ketoic steroids 17alpha-methylepithiostanol and desoxymethyl- testosterone in dietary supplements. Drug Test Anal 2009;1(11-12):518-25. Analysis of non-ketoic steroids 17alpha-methylepit... [Drug Test Anal. 2009] - PubMed result

Dietary supplements containing 17alpha-methyl-2,3-epithio-5alpha-androstane-17beta-ol (17alpha-methylepithiostanol), which is a 17-methylated analogue of epithiostanol or a prodrug of desoxymethyltestosterone (17alpha-methyl-5alpha-androst-2-en-17beta-ol), have recently appeared on the Internet. 17alpha-Methylepithiostanol and desoxymethyltestosterone are classified as prohibited substances on the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) list. Two preparations, EPISTANE and P-PLEX, were obtained from the Internet so that their contents could be investigated. This study involved gas chromatography/mass spectrometry (GC/MS) analysis after trimethylsilyl (TMS) derivatization, liquid chromatography/mass spectrometry (LC/MS) in atmospheric pressure photoionization (APPI) mode and nuclear magnetic resonance (NMR) spectroscopy. Analysis using LC/MS in APPI mode would be a useful tool for detecting heat-labile and non-polar steroids. Although the labelling of EPISTANE indicates that it contains 17alpha-methyl-2alpha, 3alpha-epithio-5alpha-androstane-17beta-ol only, 17alpha-methyl-2beta,3beta-epithio-5alpha-androstane-17beta-ol and desoxymethyltestosterone were identified in the supplement. The results showed that P-PLEX contained desoxymethyltestosterone and its isomer 17alpha-methyl-5alpha-androst-3-en-17beta-ol. Urine samples can be screened after EPISTANE or P-PLEX administration using the normal screening procedure for anabolic steroids with GC/MS.
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[kelkel]

Yeah sorry I'm not on TRT I just wasn't sure a better place to put my Blood test on this forum.

I'm very happy with my test levels. As they consistently sit above 1000. Free test is great also.

By logic I would have to deduce my problems are merely high E2 and PRL. I wouldn't mind getting my E2 to around 90 pmol/L and prolactin to the bottom end of the range.

With my free test so high would it be safe to assume my DHT is high? I'm still waiting for the DHT tests back

It's probably up there. Test converts to dht everywhere in the body except skeletal muscle. Don't worry about your DHT unless it low. It makes you a man. You don't want it in the stratosphere but high is fine. It's how you feel.

Test 1055 ng/dl GOD BLESS YOU! I would want to make sure everything is good with your pituitary. It works both ways meaning a abnormality can make you produce more testosterone prolactin or less?

Seriously jealous. And I hate my pituitary.....rotten little fvker.

[VICREP]

It's probably up there. Test converts to dht everywhere in the body except skeletal muscle. Don't worry about your DHT unless it low. It makes you a man. You don't want it in the stratosphere but high is fine. It's how you feel.

I was only wondering what DHT was like since I have heard it has some bearing on libido. I doubt it's related to my libido problems, obviously I need my E2 and PRL down.

Seriously jealous. And I hate my pituitary.....rotten little fvker.

If only I wasn't feeling so sh*t I would be able to hit the gym hard and take advantage of my >1000 test.

[powerlifterty16]

If only I wasn't feeling so sh*t I would be able to hit the gym hard and take advantage of my >1000 test.

you have some awesome natty t levels...but unfortunately your estrogen is terrible....it's hard to win eh?

im the opposite my tt is between 250-340 and estrogen is 9-14 at 23 lol