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    Quote Originally Posted by crazy mike View Post
    You seem to be a know it all, but that's cool kid. The risks are all the same. Do more reading. You mention that things bounce back USUALLY in a month. OK well the n that for the lucky ones. As was said the risks are Russian roulette. Want to play that game..it is serious.
    Now let me inform you. Lean muscle mass, holy sh!t 6-8 lbs. of lean muscle mass takes much longer then 2 months no matter what you take. Drain the water and the fatty tissue and 6-8 lbs. of lean mass is a sh!t load. It is not worth the risks and you will not accomplish much with your proposal at any age. ...crazy mike
    lol, I specifically said I don't know much about the topic. From other posts and logs, 6-8 pounds of lean muscle gain is common on someone's first cycle being only anavar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oceanus99 View Post
    lol, I specifically said I don't know much about the topic. From other posts and logs, 6-8 pounds of lean muscle gain is common on someone's first cycle being only anavar.
    With my experience and knowledge of building hard lean muscle mass this is my opinion.
    1. At your age there are serious risks as you say you are aware.
    2. What you are doing is playing roulette and that's not a joke. If you have problems then what. All for some small gain that you can do naturally without the risk, but you are impatient and want to show off something quickly because in long scheme of thing doesn't matter. You have a life time ahead. I'm 62 yrs. old.
    3. You are wrong about the muscle mass gain being common. It will not be lean muscle mass there is just No Way to build that much muscle mass in that time. It will not be all muscle mass. Been there done that.
    4. Your body doesn't know how to react and you don't know how to react in conjunction with diet and training and rest while on a steroid therefore your first cycle should be test.
    5. Did you read the young and steroids? If so do you think you are special and it won't happen to you. Your plan is not a good plan. ....crazy mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazy mike View Post
    With my experience and knowledge of building hard lean muscle mass this is my opinion.
    1. At your age there are serious risks as you say you are aware.
    2. What you are doing is playing roulette and that's not a joke. If you have problems then what. All for some small gain that you can do naturally without the risk, but you are impatient and want to show off something quickly because in long scheme of thing doesn't matter. You have a life time ahead. I'm 62 yrs. old.
    3. You are wrong about the muscle mass gain being common. It will not be lean muscle mass there is just No Way to build that much muscle mass in that time. It will not be all muscle mass. Been there done that.
    4. Your body doesn't know how to react and you don't know how to react in conjunction with diet and training and rest while on a steroid therefore your first cycle should be test.
    5. Did you read the young and steroids? If so do you think you are special and it won't happen to you. Your plan is not a good plan. ....crazy mike
    I have put on 35-40 pounds of muscles in the last 4 years of natural lifting and my gains have slowed to almost a halt. I'm not impatient, I am just coming close to my natural potential.

    I would run test but aren't the sides for that much much more severe? What would be your take on running tbol instead of var then?

    If you feel like both tbol and var are out of the question, I guess I'll keep it natural for a few more years.
    Last edited by oceanus99; 08-16-2013 at 09:30 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oceanus99 View Post
    I have put on 35-40 pounds of muscles in the last 4 years of natural lifting and my gains have slowed to almost a halt. I'm not impatient, I am just coming close to my natural potential.

    I would run test but aren't the sides for that much much more severe? What would be your take on running tbol instead of var then?

    If you feel like both tbol and var are out of the question, I guess I'll keep it natural for a few more years.
    Not to burst your bubble son but you are not putting on 10 lbs of muscle a year for the last 4 years. Not humanly possible. You have muscle fat and water bud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo View Post
    Not to burst your bubble son but you are not putting on 10 lbs of muscle a year for the last 4 years. Not humanly possible. You have muscle fat and water bud.
    ^^^^ This ^^^ what Cape said is so right on. You haven't gotten close to your natural potential at age 20. That will start at age 25 or 26. AND I said will start. Ask people's age and look at their hardness and you will see harder bodies after the age of 25 whether they started lifting at 18 or 22. The hard look starts to become real, and hard looking with solid mass after one's maturity and that usually is after age 25. Just look around. ...crazy mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo View Post
    Not to burst your bubble son but you are not putting on 10 lbs of muscle a year for the last 4 years. Not humanly possible. You have muscle fat and water bud.
    Of course I haven't put on 10 pounds a year. I bulked for 16 months when I first started and put on about 50-60 pounds. After cutting down to the same bf% as when I started I was still 25 pounds heavier. For the next 3 years I have gone theough 2 bulking/cutting phases and put on about 15 pounds. (9 pounds muscle for the first bulk then 5-6 pounds for this last one). Obviously my gains have drastically slowed. That first bulk was crazy though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oceanus99 View Post
    I have put on 35-40 pounds of muscles in the last 4 years of natural lifting and my gains have slowed to almost a halt. I'm not impatient, I am just coming close to my natural potential.
    .

    That's called puberty, and growing up, son. You were a 16 year old kid when you started...

    Trust us, you've got plenty of genetic potential left. It'll just take a bit more work, now that your growth spurt has slowed.

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