Keeping Gains

[panntastic]

I'm sorry but this has been killin me for hours and hours and I can't let you slip by....

This is BS to the FULLEST extent...Come on man, apparently people aren't smart around here or don't know what their talking about...But I can't let this slip by....

EVERYTHING you mentioned is fake...I know bodybuilding INSIDE AND OUT and this statement is just VERY VERY WRONG...

You are NOT what you speak of....It's IMPOSSIBLE!

Haz is a very long standing and very well respected member here
He speaks the truth buddy
What is so wrong with his statement?
Because something works for one person an not with another you think it's BS?

[calstate23]

Haz is a very long standing and very well respected member here
He speaks the truth buddy
What is so wrong with his statement?
Because something works for one person an not with another you think it's BS?

No, but there is a MAJOR difference of what's possible for someone and what's not....

Apparently, I could be wrong but he "floats" between 10-12% at 255 lbs...Yet he came off of hormones and is same weight and same bf%?

If he was "so-called" 10-12% bf on hormones he BETTER be A LOT higher in bf% off hormones...You can't pull the SAME numbers on hormones as a natty...NO WAY, NO HOW....

Just look at his pic and ANY KNOWLEDGEABLE person can see hormone use there...Why even try to lie?

It's RIDICULOUS

[panntastic]

No, but there is a MAJOR difference of what's possible for someone and what's not....

Apparently, I could be wrong but he "floats" between 10-12% at 255 lbs...Yet he came off of hormones and is same weight and same bf%?

If he was "so-called" 10-12% bf on hormones he BETTER be A LOT higher in bf% off hormones...You can't pull the SAME numbers on hormones as a natty...NO WAY, NO HOW....

Just look at his pic and ANY KNOWLEDGEABLE person can see hormone use there...Why even try to lie?

It's RIDICULOUS

If you read MARCUS DIARY in the lounge section Haz does go into detail about all of this
If it wasn't Saturday and I didn't have the kids I would locate and link this for you.

I think what he's wrote has somehow been misconstrued possibly
I know he's spoken in past of being BIG using hormones
Then he had some personal things and took some time away from training/ hormone usage etc
Now he's getting back into it properly again and leaning out and gaining lbm

I may be wrong but that's how I read it.

But Haz is no liar buddy trust me

[calstate23]

If you read MARCUS DIARY in the lounge section Haz does go into detail about all of this
If it wasn't Saturday and I didn't have the kids I would locate and link this for you.

I think what he's wrote has somehow been misconstrued possibly
I know he's spoken in past of being BIG using hormones
Then he had some personal things and took some time away from training/ hormone usage etc
Now he's getting back into it properly again and leaning out and gaining lbm

I may be wrong but that's how I read it.

But Haz is no liar buddy trust me

It's NOT even a conversation....I don't care if he's your best friend or your brother...Fact are Facts and they don't add up...It's fake, it's a lie, it's NOT real...

Sorry to break the news...But what he says, FIRST off isn't possible...SECONDLY , the picture he showed was someone on hormones WITHOUT A DOUBT IN MY MIND...

You could hang me if I was wrong but I'm not...I'm right

[calstate23]

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[tarmyg]

This is a super interesting thread. I can not stop following it.

~T

[calstate23]

This is a super interesting thread. I can not stop following it.

~T

Well then......

[Hazard]

No, but there is a MAJOR difference of what's possible for someone and what's not....

Apparently, I could be wrong but he "floats" between 10-12% at 255 lbs...Yet he came off of hormones and is same weight and same bf%?

If he was "so-called" 10-12% bf on hormones he BETTER be A LOT higher in bf% off hormones...You can't pull the SAME numbers on hormones as a natty...NO WAY, NO HOW....

Just look at his pic and ANY KNOWLEDGEABLE person can see hormone use there...Why even try to lie?

It's RIDICULOUS

Lol I never said I was 255 at 12% still! At one point Durring my off time I was 234. I have no idea what I weighed in that pic but I wasn't on any aas..... That's a fact.

I'm currently 254 and yes my bodyfat is higher..... As I stated. I'm currently hammering cardio to get back to 12% or below

[calstate23]

Lol I never said I was 255 at 12% still! At one point Durring my off time I was 234. I have no idea what I weighed in that pic but I wasn't on any aas..... That's a fact.

I'm currently 254 and yes my bodyfat is higher..... As I stated. I'm currently hammering cardio to get back to 12% or below

Well, perhaps I misunderstood you but it seemed like you were contradicting the "holding 20 lbs of lean muscle"...To me you're statement made it sound like...I'm natural and I did...

Then I continued with an example with a rise in 7% bf at same weight and how it's really not possible....Then you came back and made it seem like I was wrong, in which I wasn't...