
Originally Posted by
VzThunder
I understand your point of view and appreciate it and I've spent 2 years naturally training hard, 4-6 times a week mainly cutting, my lifts have all gone up dramatically and I can see I am starting to put on size and now I just feel like I am hopefully ready to see some benefits from the juice combined with my hard work.
I have seen a lot of people in a lot worse shape than me see great results with out even having proper training / diet setups, I just feel like I will see great improvements over the next 12 weeks if I train hard, eat properly and use the gear.
Thanks for your opinion though, I appreciate it.