Don't worry about getting off and focus on what it will do for you. Lower blood pressure, better pumps, vascularity, harden your upper torso and have better blood circulation plus the ED stuff.
Don't worry about getting off and focus on what it will do for you. Lower blood pressure, better pumps, vascularity, harden your upper torso and have better blood circulation plus the ED stuff.
Last edited by testluva; 09-15-2013 at 09:31 PM.
hey Zen
Just thought id offer my 2 centavos (yet again)....at first the CIA from arr thrilled my rat to no end, but, not sure what the issue is, but i too am not seeing the same results downstairs in my rats that I was initially. May try your method above or try something else..not saying it isnt working at all but certainly not like it was first couple weeks...(Not sure how long ive had my bottle, almost gone though)..
earlier someone posted about appretite increase with CIA. I have not noticed that. fwiw.
also one more thing ( I posted this in another more appropriate forum , but cant get an answer, so im posting it here). [and yes I did read the sticky on hcg..]I have also started hcg and my MD has me doing 500iu 2x / every ten days ( 4 days prior to test inj and 2 days prior to test inj). HE also actualy gave me enough to do 3 x week at 500iu. I am currently just doing the 2x . Any thoughts or ideas.... should i assume more is better long as my e2 doesnt get high ( have pretty low e2 in all my lab work previously ).
my next blood work is 9/23.
Okay after using the liquid and pill I am going to stick with the pills, they both work the same to be honest and I did 10 a day of both, the pill I did 1/2 of a 20 in the AM and the liquid and did AM /PM of 5.
The pill is easier, I can take it anywhere and I don't have to dick around with it spilling every time I shake it and I am also not a fan of the pia it is to use.
Price is about the same if you order enough of the pills, about 50-75c a day.
kind of a dick , arent ya? thanks.
liquid cia, works for me. bottle leaks, numbers come off the syringe, might be a tad under dosed, the settled " white area" in the bottle seems to vary from order to order but it is effective, cheap and i love it!
Thought I'd just resurrect/bump this.
I started 5mg ED only 2 days ago. I will go up to 2x per day after 7 days when, hopefully, my sides subside. Currently I have had tight chest/wheezing (nothing crazy but noticeable) and very stuffy nose. I've also had some stonking erections already. Haven't had chance to try a pump at the gym yet and no increased vascularity, as expected, at this stage.
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What took you so long to get started on this...lol.
Anyway, I used to get the bad stuffy nose. That subsided. Unfortunately, the flushing on my neck and upper chest is always there. Red like a beet. Never experienced the tightness in chest. You really should see some great pumps in the gym...and the bedroom
Also, my psa has stayed in the .4-.6 range. Not bad for an old dude.
Btw... I know that many guys do 5mg x2/day. I was getting a sore lower back and very bad sinuses. Only when I lowered to 6mg did those sides go away. There was no loss in erections. You'll find what works best for you.
Last edited by Rusty11; 01-05-2014 at 09:59 AM.
Ah, finances have been a little tight the last couple of years, cialis was always going to be a luxury. I started TRT about a year ago and my dad has recently been diagnosed with prostate cancer. So the time was right
I get a little asthma from time to time and have an inhaler which will take care of the chest issues and I'm taking the c at bedtime so I can try and sleep through the stuffiness. Hopefully some vitamin C and l-cysteine will reduce the symptoms til they disappear.
I have a feeling my stonking erections Are quickly going to piss off my Mrs lol
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Sorry to hear about your dad
C sux. My sister just diagnosed with breast cancer. Best of luck to your dad.
Thanks bud, it's not bad and he doesn't need treatment at this stage. Most folk who do get it don't die from it, at least.
Best of luck to your sister too, I know a couple of people who have had breast cancer, it's much more threatening than prostate cancer I believe. Fingers crossed for a speedy recovery.
Right, time for today's daily dose![]()
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Same problems. I just make a little score with a knife on the syringe.Originally Posted by keep fightin
So from what I'm reading, everyone should be on this stuff eh?
After my PCT I've had weak boners so I wanted a solution but it comes along with so many benefits...just order off ar-r?
Having read a lot of this thread my interest in Cialis is piqued. Some have written about the Indian pharmacy. What is that source? Also any idea of shipments of liquid C from either the Indian source or from AR-R into Canada? Would it be confiscated?
just wanted to add regarding arr products... tried cia , loved it, generally... tried their vi product... hated it.. horrid taste and didnt produce desired results as well as the cia.
Most online pharmacies are in canada so I would think you would have no issues. It's only cialis so I doubt it would get held in customs.Originally Posted by 17chester6
I started 3mg 2x per day about 5 days ago. I'm starting to see the benefits, but yesterday I started getting bad cramps in my left calf and hamstring. I've read the whole thread, but no mention of leg cramps as sides.
I'm lowering the dose to 3mg 1x per day in hopes the sides will go away. Any ideas on how long to expect the sides to go away? Is there a possibility they won't go away?
Just received ar-r. Great product
Last edited by Ccdiesel; 03-20-2014 at 07:14 PM.
Do headaches and sore throat fade with use or is it constant?
Maybe start off at a lower dose? I was getting heartburn and a little water retention so I stopped use. After about 6 months I started up again at lower dose and so far fine. I filled a dropper bottle and started with 2 drops 2xED and over a period of about 3 weeks worked up to 5 drops 2xED. 5 drops in my dropper is about 4mg and I still have an underlying heartburn feeling but started to experience the benefits without previous sides as before. Titrating up could help with the headache and sore throat if the C is the cause.
Oh it's the CIA. I have all the sides. Immediately. I just didn't know if I am one of the lucky ones that gets these and they will not let up. Headache, backache, stuffy, sore throat, and flushed within 40 minutes of 15iu dose on an insulin syringe
Just read the thread. Great information. Ordered from AR-R and recieved in a week and a half. Sorry to hear about the few that had issues. Pump at the gym is amazing. Not getting the 24 hour wood as some in the thread but only running 5mg dose a day right now.
Question is can I run a low daily dose of Cia and take a small dose of Viagra once in a while?
The erections were amazing when I took my liquid Cia, but the constant stuffy nose accompanied by facial, chest and upper arm flushing was not worth it.
Not a fan of looking like hulk hogan Brothers.
Might start off real low, 3mg and work my way up to maximum 6mg and see how I do.
Does everyone use the same method to measure and take amount? Mouth syringe?
The Ar-r stuff is amazing..morning headaches and night time stuffy nose isn't the most fun but the positives def worth it...
What about traveling on a plane w this stuff without a perscription? TSA always worries me.
An FYI, I was getting heartburn with the AR-R cia, so the last order I let 2 bottles settle for a day and drew off most of the blue suspension liquid (kept enough to keep it suspended though) and put it in a dropper bottle. I use less drops now, so I needed to figure out dosage again, but not having any issue with heartburn anymore. The AR-R cia has worked well for me, but can be inconvenient when away from home. Just trying to get in my 50 posts to ask about the best places to get cia in tablet form, anybody want to e-mail a newb and give that info?
I order from Alldaychemist. Ive had good results with their tadalafil.
Can somebody e-mail me (not enough posts for pm) where gd was referring to getting his pharma grade tad overseas??
Last edited by The_Crawfish; 04-30-2014 at 01:20 PM.
I think somebody probably knows, but FYI GD was banned.
Great thread... I'm going to give this a try and see what happens.
A huge amount of FDA approved drugs come from India. These are the same brands received when buying overseas as many of us do, especially for HCG.Originally Posted by APIs
I just downloaded a free 30 day supply from cialis website took to my dr. I ask her if she would give me this(she knows I use from an online source) she said sure but she would have to put on my record that I have bhp to get me a 5 mg dose daily. Went to pharmacy and received my script. Honestly I feel no difference than with ar-r liquid CIA. I have three refills so gonna see if my insurance covers it .
No offense, but your statement is only half-true and you have no way of actually verifying it.
I've been in the Chemical & Pharma Industry my whole career. Fact is you cannot guarantee what you're getting from an overseas pharmacy. While many drugs do come from India into the U.S. market, those that do "are" from FDA inspected and approved facilities. But you can ONLY obtain these approved products through a U.S. Pharmacy with a prescription. The entry & distribution of these drugs into the U.S. market is strictly controlled. Once you go outside this chain of distribution (i.e. through an on-line overseas pharmacy) there's no way to really verify what you're actually purchasing.
There is no way for the average consumer to verify that the drugs from an overseas pharmacy are being manufactured in a facility that is certified to be operating under Good Manufacturing Practices and/or have been inspected & approved by any government organization.
There are thousands of sub-standard factories in China, India & elsewhere manufacturing drugs for the black-market with labels copied from legitimate Drug Firms being placed on sub-standard products for export to the U.S. & elsewhere exclusively through on-line pharmacies.
While I'm sure people here have found some decent products via overseas-pharmacies, there is no guarantee of consistent quality and the risk of receiving bad and/or sub-standard product(s) does exist...
Last edited by APIs; 05-05-2014 at 02:52 PM.
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