the amazement of tren

[hwy1378]

it would be great to get back to the facts .... you know about the Tren ??

[dec11]

nor would i

the lab i used for tren a was crippling stuff to boot ! fvckin awful PIP. im hoping tht this other lab's is smoother

[MBMETC]

it would be great to get back to the facts .... you know about the Tren ??

i think were heading back in that direction

[brad1986]

dec11 your ****n harsh....but i like it haha

[dec11]

dec11 your ****n harsh....but i like it haha

just tell the truth mate, thts all

[Rye_guy]

keeping gains all depends on how hard you diet and train to keep them. ive used tren many times and love it! if you can handle the sides.... like anything, you have to keep working extra hard after cycle and suppliment according. proper pct is a must

[Rastapopolous]

every other day pinning is perfectly ok, ed is unnecessary in my experience.
not everyone will suffer those sides, the trick is to start out with something low like 350mgs pw, i got fantastic results of that and zero sides

I wouldn't argue with it being perfectly okay. The reasons I prefer to pin it ED rather than EOD are mainly due to the half life of the acetate ester. ED pinning keeps hormone level fluctuations down and also the sides as a consequence. Also I like the feeling of Tren at it's peak. I pin it early in the morning timed so that the peak coincides with my workout in the afternoon.

Edit: I've just been looking around on the web about its half life and I'm probably actually wrong about the half life. If going on half life then EOD pinning would be perfectly acceptible. ED pinning seems to give you more of a daily peak though from my experience - just goes to show how much of a druggie I am. lol :-)

[dec11]

I wouldn't argue with it being perfectly okay. The reasons I prefer to pin it ED rather than EOD are mainly due to the half life of the acetate ester. ED pinning keeps hormone level fluctuations down and also the sides as a consequence. Also I like the feeling of Tren at it's peak. I pin it early in the morning timed so that the peak coincides with my workout in the afternoon.

the important words in my post were, in my experience


it made zero difference to me. did you feel physical difference?

pinning and training time have no correlation at all btw

[Rastapopolous]

the important words in my post were, in my experience


it made zero difference to me. did you feel physical difference?

pinning and training time have no correlation at all btw

Yeah, I tend to rely on experience more than the literature myself too..

reposting my edit from above:
I've just been looking around on the web about its half life and I'm probably actually wrong about the half life. If going on half life then EOD pinning would be perfectly acceptible. ED pinning seems to give me more of a daily peak though from my experience - just goes to show how much of a druggie I am. lol :-)

[Rastapopolous]

This post by some fella on another forum sums it up well and he's got some graphs showing hormone levels for ED vs EOD pinning

Tren acetate should be injected daily. You're going to have a roller coaster effect if you don't. You'll have spikes and drops in your blood levels. This is one of the way to enduce the side effects because your body never adjusts. You'll have some nights you sleep better and some days you're stronger and some days you're meaner, etc. Sure it's "easier" but many people don't realize that they are making it harder on the bodies to cope.

[dec11]

This post by some fella on another forum sums it up well and he's got some graphs showing hormone levels for ED vs EOD pinning

really means nothing mate, as i said its just on paper, didnt affect my gains at all and you're right, the half life is longer than you 1st thought.

i just dont advocate ed pinning tren or test p cos its a complete pain in the ass and gets really irritating after 2wks, for me anyway. so why go through it all for a diff you wont notice or feel?

[Rastapopolous]

I do feel the diff myself tho - as I said if I pin early in the morning I feel like the tren's really kicking by the afternoon when my workout is. I pin with a 26g pin half inch (mainly into the pecs) tho so maybe that's the difference.. can't feel a thing during injection or post.

[dec11]

I do feel the diff myself tho - as I said if I pin early in the morning I feel like the tren's really kicking by the afternoon when my workout is. I pin with a 26g pin half inch (mainly into the pecs) tho so maybe that's the difference.. can't feel a thing during injection or post.

but its in you at a level all the time mate, maybe placebo? doesnt affect me that way at all

[Rastapopolous]

yeah it probably is placebo. as long as it makes me hit the weights branch warren style I'm not complaining. hehehe

[dec11]

yeah it probably is placebo. as long as it makes me hit the weights branch warren style I'm not complaining. hehehe

lol, no harm in that, placebo is a strong help. just to give you a senario, when i competed powerlifting i got totally psyched out when the discs being used were the bare metal style and i massively under performed, i would see them and i knew i wouldnt get my top lifts and didnt. with the rubber coated discs i was on fire. same fookin weight on the bar at the end of the day. strange shit, go figure.....

[PowerliftWill]

but its in you at a level all the time mate, maybe placebo? doesnt affect me that way at all

100% placebo. I like shooting tren ed because it gives me that extra reinforcement when I go to the gym then im feelin like an animal on it.

[dec11]

100% placebo. I like shooting tren ed because it gives me that extra reinforcement when I go to the gym then im feelin like an animal on it.

well if it gives you a lift in that way then its it worth doing mate, small things can make big diff, certain music and songs for example

[MBMETC]

lol, no harm in that, placebo is a strong help. just to give you a senario, when i competed powerlifting i got totally psyched out when the discs being used were the bare metal style and i massively under performed, i would see them and i knew i wouldnt get my top lifts and didnt. with the rubber coated discs i was on fire. same fookin weight on the bar at the end of the day. strange shit, go figure.....

im the same way i guess the metal plates look heavier..lol.. f-ing corny shite we let our mind do to us.

[dec11]

im the same way i guess the metal plates look heavier..lol.. f-ing corny shite we let our mind do to us.

yeah its mad, think it was the noise of them clinking together that got me, just bizarre!

[gymnerd]

yeah its mad, think it was the noise of them clinking together that got me, just bizarre!

I dont usually have that problem myself, but I have seen some one set a 30lb PR simply because we had 100lb plates on there and he just didnt realize how much weight was on the bar soo he just lifted it and didnt mind **** himself. Crazy

[dec11]

I dont usually have that problem myself, but I have seen some one set a 30lb PR simply because we had 100lb plates on there and he just didnt realize how much weight was on the bar soo he just lifted it and didnt mind **** himself. Crazy

yeah, ive seen that before also

[gearbox]

I read every post on this topic, learned a lot. (with lots of rubbish) SO pinning tren eod will be just as good as ed, that is good to know when I start my first test/tren cycle. 3rd cycle over all. thanks guys

[gearbox]

Y can't i pm someone. Do i need more posts or am i too new. I spent about a year reading before i was a member/password

[MBMETC]

Y can't i pm someone. Do i need more posts or am i too new. I spent about a year reading before i was a member/password

You'll need I think 50 posts, go tou the lounge and whore it up.

[tank87]

what are the side effects while on Tren? I keep hearing there harsh but what are the sides?

[hwy1378]

I read every post on this topic, learned a lot. (with lots of rubbish) SO pinning tren eod will be just as good as ed, that is good to know when I start my first test/tren cycle. 3rd cycle over all. thanks guys

a lot of guys won't agree with that

[hwy1378]

I do feel the diff myself tho - as I said if I pin early in the morning I feel like the tren's really kicking by the afternoon when my workout is. I pin with a 26g pin half inch (mainly into the pecs) tho so maybe that's the difference.. can't feel a thing during injection or post.

do you feel you get local muscle growth with tren at the injection site

[dec11]

do you feel you get local muscle growth with tren at the injection site

its a myth

[Sven7]

really means nothing mate, as i said its just on paper, didnt affect my gains at all and you're right, the half life is longer than you 1st thought.

i just dont advocate ed pinning tren or test p cos its a complete pain in the ass and gets really irritating after 2wks, for me anyway. so why go through it all for a diff you wont notice or feel?

I chuckled

[dec11]

I chuckled

yeah lol, its quite literally

[PowerliftWill]

well if it gives you a lift in that way then its it worth doing mate, small things can make big diff, certain music and songs for example

ya it's weird bro how closely our mind is tied with us. When I shoot ed pre w/o I feel mentally ready to go. I'm so superstitious with it. They say consistency is key, I think that applies mentally as well. Problem is, it get upset you for no reason either, which can be a downfall.

[boundup]

I don't know why I even mentioned I was having no sides with Tren Ace. Cause I have just been hit like a truck today. It started small but not it is full blown. I am soaking through shirts, I woke up last night an completely soaked my pillow and made an outline of my body on the sheets. I get winded taking the elevator. Wtf.

[manblue]

looking forward to getting some tren in the future, sounds like good stuff!

[BG]

the important words in my post were, in my experience


it made zero difference to me. did you feel physical difference?

pinning and training time have no correlation at all btw

There is a definite difference. I have to inject short ester-ed compounds ed or I get acne. I get acne when my hormones are the least bit imbalanced, even when I first go and off long esters. To get the most out of your cycle with least sides you want to have your blood levels stabilized as fast as you can and keep them that way.

[AlphaMaleDawg]

I am bulking hard with it now and I am really blowing up

[AverageGymRat]

I had a friend who run tren in his first cycle together with EQ and test. Such a dumb decision. He had great gains and kept most of it, but was it worth the ugly-a*s acne on his back? He has a great body now but he is afraid to take his shirt off in summer because of his terrible scars. If you run tren and especially if you had ANY acne when you were a teenager, make sure to get some accutane on hand or you will regret it! Gains are temporary but scars are permanent.

[austinite]

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I had a friend who run tren in his first cycle together with EQ and test. Such a dumb decision. He had great gains and kept most of it, but was it worth the ugly-a*s acne on his back? He has a great body now but he is afraid to take his shirt off in summer because of his terrible scars. If you run tren and especially if you had ANY acne when you were a teenager, make sure to get some accutane on hand or you will regret it! Gains are temporary but scars are permanent.

welcome back

whoever you are.

[tebby]

Not taking anything but I have prami and aromisin on hand, sex drive is always eh for me, shitty marriage and I don't cheat. The sides I am experiancing are sweats night and day, easily irritated, crappy sleep and had some funky dreams the first couple of nights but other than that it's all good.

I could do 100 mg a week of tren and I get EXACTLY what you get....and cannot tolerate it. I have a good marriage and Tren would wreck it for sure....she knows something is up when the sheets are soaking wet and I am a complete a hole.....that stuff is just nasty (in my body). I have to live life reading all the post of how this is the Jesus oil.

[king6 II]

I could do 100 mg a week of tren and I get EXACTLY what you get....and cannot tolerate it. I have a good marriage and Tren would wreck it for sure....she knows something is up when the sheets are soaking wet and I am a complete a hole.....that stuff is just nasty (in my body). I have to live life reading all the post of how this is the Jesus oil.

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