**Marcus's HIT Dungeon**

[Java Man]

15 hours until gym

chest/tri's, with my new found knowledge, gonna have to use rest-pause instead of drops since the dumbbells only go up to 88 lbs... never thought id be lifting them... and now they're not heavy enough..lol..

Seriously. It's cool to look back and remember where you came from. Tells you how far you've come and it's proof that people aren't born strong. They're made through busting their asses in the gym and kitchen. I couldn't get the 40's up when I first started lol. Omg I was so weak

[Java Man]

Hard to tell if it's discolored, and yeah hurts to touch and bend the knee.

Yeah if it were me I'd see that doc asap and go easy on it until then.

[Capebuffalo]

In the weight gain shake or your homemade one? I'm confused!

That's my homemade one.
But the gainer only has 4 gr of fat per

[Capebuffalo]

Muscle juice cape?

Had a tub of that before. Tastes nasty..

Optimum Nutrition Mass Gainer. Not bad

[Java Man]

That's my homemade one.
But the gainer only has 4 gr of fat per

How much sugar per serving in the pre made gainer? I remember those having lots of sugar but that was 15 yrs ago. They've evolved I'm sure.

[Igifuno]

I do and still do. It's more I've wound up in the truck 4-8 hrs a day all of a sudden. I find it very difficult to eat out of containers while in traffic pulling a trailer most times. While the phone is forwarded to my cell. And the text and emails having to be replied to still driving. Next year I'm getting an admin assistant for the office. I run the battery down on my phone and pad after lunch. I used to pre cook for the week on Sunday afternoon. Now I spend as much time with the wife and son because I just don't get to see them as much. My son is a sleep when I leave and is when I get home a lot. So that's my compromise for now. Headed for the deer stand. It's 28 this morning 10 mile per hr wind. Going to be cold. That's when the beard comes into play"Marcus".

Yeah that sounds tough. Just keep doing what you can cape.

Stay warm out there today....windy and 28! Whoooo

[Igifuno]

15 hours until gym chest/tri's, with my new found knowledge, gonna have to use rest-pause instead of drops since the dumbbells only go up to 88 lbs... never thought id be lifting them... and now they're not heavy enough..lol..

I'm fired up for you kron!! Get it done and make it hurt!!

[marcus300]

I'm going to go through each post when in have time tomorrow, just a little busy today but looks like this place just keeps on climbing to to high daily...but please I will get back to everyone tomorrow .

DID LEGS TODAY
BRUTAL AND VERY DAMANAGING

[Capebuffalo]

Yeah that sounds tough. Just keep doing what you can cape.

Stay warm out there today....windy and 28! Whoooo

This is what cold looks like

[Igifuno]

Looks like fun cape. Cold, but fun.

[Cuz]

Optimim mass gainer yep I've used it. Good stuff. Forgot about how much sugar is in it.

I'm using cheapo crap right now.

[Igifuno]

Supposed to be in there for legs today. Sat in front of the gym for 15 mins before driving back home.

Feeling very tired and sluggish, cannot seem to snap out of it and I have chest pains when I breathe deep. Heart rate was way up this morning and got winded doing minor housework.

Today is not my day. Had to retreat, will return for battle tomorrow.

[Capebuffalo]

Supposed to be in there for legs today. Sat in front of the gym for 15 mins before driving back home.

Feeling very tired and sluggish, cannot seem to snap out of it and I have chest pains when I breathe deep. Heart rate was way up this morning and got winded doing minor housework.

Today is not my day. Had to retreat, will return for battle tomorrow.

Listen to your body. Keep a check on BP. Get some rest and fuel up.

[DCI]

Sometimes igi, they are the best times to push through the tiredness. But then there is nothing worse than a shitty work out to put you in a foul mood.

I haven't been in 12 days cannot wait to go back as it was the end of a hiit training regime, heading back into it now again cant wait

[Rusty11]

Igi, feeling tired and sluggish, knowing today is "not your day" is one thing. Chest pains and high bp is another thing-something to keep a keen eye on. Take care of yourself, buddy.

[Hazard]

Woke up with much less pain in my shoulder. Iced it for 20min and took 800mg Advil. The advice didn't touch it while I was awake lol.

Not giving it much movement today..... Gunna continue icing it and taking advil. Hopefully tomorrow I can do backs and tris

[Cuz]

I'm sure your delt will be fine. Haz. Ig, just take a break today and see how you feel tommorow. I've felt like shit and dropped a lot of weight the past two weeks. When I level back out I should put 10lbs on no problemo. Trained quads last night...mental focus is off

[kelkel]

I'm going to go through each post when in have time tomorrow, just a little busy today but looks like this place just keeps on climbing to to high daily...but please I will get back to everyone tomorrow .

DID LEGS TODAY
BRUTAL AND VERY DAMANAGING

It is hard to keep up with this thread anymore. It's taken on a life of its own and continues to grow exponentially....

[Sfla80]

Supposed to be in there for legs today. Sat in front of the gym for 15 mins before driving back home.

Feeling very tired and sluggish, cannot seem to snap out of it and I have chest pains when I breathe deep. Heart rate was way up this morning and got winded doing minor housework.

Today is not my day. Had to retreat, will return for battle tomorrow.

Rest and feel better man

[DCI]

It is hard to keep up with this thread anymore. It's taken on a life of its own and continues to grow exponentially....

Lol, was just going to say that wrnt away for a week and it expanded by 12 pages lol shows how many great contributors are on this thread and are willing to help

[Sfla80]

Great arm day today, have 2 question at end though

Close grip free weight
195x5 drop x 4

Straight set
Incline skulls
75x6
Over head Db
80x6

Reverse grip pull downs
110x5 RPx2 drop x 2

"small" straight bar still unsure of bar weight
25's each side x 6 RP x 2

Straight set
Incline curls
35x6
Hammers
40x6

Hammer preacher machine ISO one arm
45x6 drop x 2

Ok, these question are in regards to rep range. I have read marcus read on this and know what its about. But with Straight sets (as I had 2 different straights in this routine) is your total rep range going to be lets say 12 total for both excersises? Hope that makes sense

Other question is rep range on ISO movements.....would u tr to get to closer to the 12 then the lower of 6-8?

[thunderthor70]

This is what cold looks like
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Good luck Cape! Gun or bow hunting? I've taken deer with a shotgun, musle loader and pistol. Last few years I've only shotgun hunted though

[bikeral]

Hope you guys don't mind me posting my workouts. Just going to post a couple more till I have this down.
Today Delts/Traps

Smith seated shoulder press
230x5, 180x3, 140x4

Smith Upright row
130x4, 110x3, 90x4

Dumbbell rear lateral raise
45x4, 35x4, 25x5

Dumbbell front raise
45x3, 35x4, 25x4

Hammer plate loaded seated shrugs
410x3, 360x4, 320x4

Standing dumbbell shrugs
120x4, 105x3, 95x4

[Java Man]

Igi, feeling tired and sluggish, knowing today is "not your day" is one thing. Chest pains and high bp is another thing-something to keep a keen eye on. Take care of yourself, buddy.

X2.

Supposed to be in there for legs today. Sat in front of the gym for 15 mins before driving back home.

Feeling very tired and sluggish, cannot seem to snap out of it and I have chest pains when I breathe deep. Heart rate was way up this morning and got winded doing minor housework.

Today is not my day. Had to retreat, will return for battle tomorrow.

What is your bp looking like?
Tachycardia
Chest pain
Short of breath

Classic symptoms of you know what... Not trying to freak you out but people have heart attacks all the time who don't even know they had one. Might be a good idea to go get an EKG. I have done that a few times in the past few years due to persistent symptoms like that. Even got a CT of my chest. AIW but not knowing and having those symptoms was actually making those symptoms worse. Anxiety can mimic heart attack symptoms. Heart attack going intreated or unnoticed is deadly.

How Is a Heart Attack Diagnosed? - NHLBI, NIH

[bikeral]

Supposed to be in there for legs today. Sat in front of the gym for 15 mins before driving back home.

Feeling very tired and sluggish, cannot seem to snap out of it and I have chest pains when I breathe deep. Heart rate was way up this morning and got winded doing minor housework.

Today is not my day. Had to retreat, will return for battle tomorrow.

Hey buddy make sure you are OK. Not worth it to push yourself.

[sawyer86]

Hi everyone. Been so busy last few months havnt had time to post bt ive been reading. Everyone is looking big hopefully its my turn soon. Just done week 6 of priming but also been suffering with a shoulder injury. Found out i have fluid on it so im getting an ultrasound guided steroid injection on wednesday then i have to have 2 weeks off the gym. With a bit of look thatl be it sorted.

[Igifuno]

Listen to your body. Keep a check on BP. Get some rest and fuel up.

10-4.. took a short nap and just doing some light cleaning.. watching football. Time to eat.

Sometimes igi, they are the best times to push through the tiredness. But then there is nothing worse than a shitty work out to put you in a foul mood.

I haven't been in 12 days cannot wait to go back as it was the end of a hiit training regime, heading back into it now again cant wait

Let us know how it goes DCI.. glad you're back in the swing.

Igi, feeling tired and sluggish, knowing today is "not your day" is one thing. Chest pains and high bp is another thing-something to keep a keen eye on. Take care of yourself, buddy.

thanks Rusty.. will do

I'm sure your delt will be fine. Haz. Ig, just take a break today and see how you feel tommorow. I've felt like shit and dropped a lot of weight the past two weeks. When I level back out I should put 10lbs on no problemo. Trained quads last night...mental focus is off

keep doing what you're doing haz.. ice/heat/ibuprophen/rest

thanks chad

Rest and feel better man

Hey buddy make sure you are OK. Not worth it to push yourself.

thanks guys..

[Igifuno]

X2.



What is your bp looking like?
Tachycardia
Chest pain
Short of breath

Classic symptoms of you know what... Not trying to freak you out but people have heart attacks all the time who don't even know they had one. Might be a good idea to go get an EKG. I have done that a few times in the past few years due to persistent symptoms like that. Even got a CT of my chest. AIW but not knowing and having those symptoms was actually making those symptoms worse. Anxiety can mimic heart attack symptoms. Heart attack going intreated or unnoticed is deadly.

How Is a Heart Attack Diagnosed? - NHLBI, NIH

thanks java for the link, will read now. BP was 152/68 sitting still which I'm not happy about. Very frustrating. Getting winded very easy, probably the tren but I'm pretty paranoid about my heart. Spoke about it recently on the aas board on a thread with docdoc..

[kelkel]

Hi everyone. Been so busy last few months havnt had time to post bt ive been reading. Everyone is looking big hopefully its my turn soon. Just done week 6 of priming but also been suffering with a shoulder injury. Found out i have fluid on it so im getting an ultrasound guided steroid injection on wednesday then i have to have 2 weeks off the gym. With a bit of look thatl be it sorted.

Get fixed up and let us know how it goes. Two weeks off will be fine. I'd imagine you may be able to do some light leg work, cardio etc.

[Capebuffalo]

Hope you guys don't mind me posting my workouts. Just going to post a couple more till I have this down.
Today Delts/Traps

Smith seated shoulder press
230x5, 180x3, 140x4

Smith Upright row
130x4, 110x3, 90x4

Dumbbell rear lateral raise
45x4, 35x4, 25x5

Dumbbell front raise
45x3, 35x4, 25x4

Hammer plate loaded seated shrugs
410x3, 360x4, 320x4

Standing dumbbell shrugs
120x4, 105x3, 95x4

Are these all drop sets? I ask because the weight decreases each set.

For example Smith Shoulder Press would look like
1 warm 140x8
2 working 180x 7 rest pause 4
225x4 drop x2 drop x2

Something like that.

[Capebuffalo]

thanks java for the link, will read now. BP was 152/68 sitting still which I'm not happy about. Very frustrating. Getting winded very easy, probably the tren but I'm pretty paranoid about my heart. Spoke about it recently on the aas board on a thread with docdoc..

68 is good you don't want 90 or above. Your worry about your heart will make pressure higher. Is this your first run with tren?

[Igifuno]

68 is good you don't want 90 or above. Your worry about your heart will make pressure higher. Is this your first run with tren?

what about the 152 though, isn't that no good? No, not first run with tren.. this would be my 3rd.

[Igifuno]

Hope you guys don't mind me posting my workouts. Just going to post a couple more till I have this down.
Today Delts/Traps

Smith seated shoulder press
230x5, 180x3, 140x4

Smith Upright row
130x4, 110x3, 90x4

Dumbbell rear lateral raise
45x4, 35x4, 25x5

Dumbbell front raise
45x3, 35x4, 25x4

Hammer plate loaded seated shrugs
410x3, 360x4, 320x4

Standing dumbbell shrugs
120x4, 105x3, 95x4

Post away man I love to see them.

Cape not to speak for bike but I'm pretty sure these are drop sets.. rep range looks a lot better.

Bike, are you foregoing feel sets and jumping right into working, or are you just not posting your feel/warmup sets?

[kelkel]

what about the 152 though, isn't that no good? No, not first run with tren.. this would be my 3rd.

Iggy simple arginine will help with blood pressure. I posted a thread in the HRT Forum on it.

[Igifuno]

thanks. man I need to get out of the lounge more.. very helpful. Placing an order.

[sawyer86]

Get fixed up and let us know how it goes. Two weeks off will be fine. I'd imagine you may be able to do some light leg work, cardio etc.

Thats what im thinking. Still hit legs as hard as i can a few times over the two weeks and do some light cardio each day.

[Java Man]

what about the 152 though, isn't that no good? No, not first run with tren.. this would be my 3rd.

Pulse pressure, the difference between systolic and diastolic, is bigger than normal, consistently, based on the numbers you've been posting. That's what concerns me. Yours is >80.

"A high pulse pressure may be a strong predictor of heart problems, especially for older adults. Generally, a pulse pressure greater than 40 mm Hg is abnormal. A pulse pressure lower than 40 may mean you have poor heart function, while a higher pulse pressure may mean your heart's valves are leaky (valve regurgitation).

The most important cause of elevated pulse pressure is stiffness of the aorta, the largest artery in the body. The stiffness may be due to high blood pressure or fatty deposits on the walls of the arteries (atherosclerosis). The greater your pulse pressure, the stiffer and more damaged the vessels are thought to be. "

Pulse pressure: An indicator of heart health? - MayoClinic.com

I'm starting to get worried about you. I've never run anything, including orals, that screwed my body up as much as tren. I'm not doing it ever again. Lipids, bp, liver enzymes, kidney function all need to be watched. There's probably some good reasons why it's not approved for human use by any country on earth.

[Igifuno]

Pulse pressure, the difference between systolic and diastolic, is bigger than normal, consistently, based on the numbers you've been posting. That's what concerns me. Yours is >80. "A high pulse pressure may be a strong predictor of heart problems, especially for older adults. Generally, a pulse pressure greater than 40 mm Hg is abnormal. A pulse pressure lower than 40 may mean you have poor heart function, while a higher pulse pressure may mean your heart's valves are leaky (valve regurgitation). The most important cause of elevated pulse pressure is stiffness of the aorta, the largest artery in the body. The stiffness may be due to high blood pressure or fatty deposits on the walls of the arteries (atherosclerosis). The greater your pulse pressure, the stiffer and more damaged the vessels are thought to be. " Pulse pressure: An indicator of heart health? - MayoClinic.com I'm starting to get worried about you. I've never run anything, including orals, that screwed my body up as much as tren. I'm not doing it ever again. Lipids, bp, liver enzymes, kidney function all need to be watched. There's probably some good reasons why it's not approved for human use by any country on earth.

Thanks again java. Appreciate all the info on this. I'm going to pick up some argentine and citrulline today and also order some. Will see if that helps but I hear you about the tren. May need to drop it.

[Hazard]

Just put two pics together for a before and after. 1st one was when I was at my lowest..... No gym, no diet, and partied. 2nd one is a couple days ago. I'm dedicated, eating, lifting hard

[kelkel]

Thanks again java. Appreciate all the info on this. I'm going to pick up some argentine and citrulline today and also order some. Will see if that helps but I hear you about the tren. May need to drop it.

Igi have you had any BW recently? Curious about your lipids as well.

Just put two pics together for a before and after. 1st one was when I was at my lowest..... No gym, no diet, and partied. 2nd one is a couple days ago. I'm dedicated, eating, lifting hard

Huge difference Haz. Huge. I am getting tired of those green and white lockers though. Horrible. Just horrible.