**Marcus's HIT Dungeon**

[kronik420]

Great info kel! I didn't know that..... I've primarily done seated as I have a seated calf machine at home.

you learn something new everyday around here

[Igifuno]

What's everybody opinion on creatine? Is it worth it or it depends on the individual?

Whats up big? We haven't gotten a chance to interact yet but I've seen you on here and like how you're implementing the advanced training techniques. Hope its going well for you man.

Creatine is okay, I don't really bother with it any more because it seems to be in everything else now like protien/carb shake powder. I have a big bag of it that probably needs to be tossed lol. It's generally safe at reasonable doses at a rate of 5 to 20 grams per day without worrying about any adverse side-effects, and can contribute to the improvment to the physiological response to resistance exercise, increasing the maximal force production of muscles. Some like to run it during pct for an added boost in the time of percieved catabolism.

[AD]

Completely different muscle. Seated works the soleus muscle predominantly, which is smaller and beneath the gastroc. Standing works the gastroc. No matter what you read you really don't get one while doing the other. Think of it like triceps, they don't really grow a lot just cause we bench press.

Soleus Muscle Origin, Function & Anatomy | Body Maps

kel, just for discussion sake, in an attempt to change muscle shape and appearance: if i like the appearance of prominent gastroc, the double muscle belly look, instead of a thick full calf look, can i just train standing and not focus on soleus?

[Hazard]

I havnt used Creatine since highschool..... Other than what's already in a shake I might have.

The only worthwhile supps IMO are glutamine, glucosamine, omegas, NAC, beta-alanine, aminos. I'm probably forgetting a few.....

[kronik420]

if i were to buy creatine tho, it would be plain creatine monohydrate, no fancy stuff...

[Hazard]

if i were to buy creatine tho, it would be plain creatine monohydrate, no fancy stuff...

I'd use that money to buy more chicken..... That's just me lol

[Igifuno]

Here's my list of supps:

multis
vit c
fish oil/omega-3
low dose asprin
liver detox (just ordered NAC for the first time)
L-glutamine
L-arginine/citrulline (just started using this for BP)

Hmm.. I may be forgetting one or two as well

[biggjd69]

What's going on IG, thanks for your input. Yes I am trying to get this thing in here preparing for first ever cycle

[Igifuno]

Looks like you're preparing well - I'm sure its going to go well for you. Looking forward to seeing the results!

[almostgone]

Love smith presses. I'm still looking for dumbells myself. Trying to find 130lb Powerblocks on Craigslist in my area. Nothing yet!

Lee Haney used to have a program on TV early in the morning. He loved Powerblocks.

[marcus300]

This past week off has benefitted me SO MUCH! Incline presses 275 for reps today - did 2 sets of 10 with a 3rd set of 6 and a drop to 225 for 6 more.

I didn't go balls out either because of my back and shoulder so I'm confident I can attempt 315 in another 4 weeks or so.

Edit - weighed in at 263.5

That's some weight big guy, smokes me well done and gald to hear your back on track - what cycle are you on at the moment?

Bis / chest tonight. First time trying out kelkels recommendation with doing biceps before chest. I liked it.

- seated incline dumbbell curl. 2 warm up, 1 working then triple drop to failure.
- Hammers, 1 warm up, 1 working , double drop to failure.
- reverse curls 1 warm up, 1 working, rest pause.

Chest:
- Incline dumbbell press, 1 feeler, 1 working, double drop set. By this time I was gasping for ever breath. I was really pumped up.
- incline flys, 1 working set, triple drop set.
- Cable flys 3 sets high rep.

I've been doing Hit religiously for the past 4 weeks and have been really concentrating on the mental aspect. Every work out I get better/stronger. Also diet has been spot on. The results are UNREAL! Thanks again to all you guys here.. Now when I look around in the gym I'm pretty much the only person who's breaking a sweat, everyone else is taking their 5 minute breaks between each set and carrying on a conversation. Makes me laugh now

well done on your achievement and new training style but why are you doing biceps before chest?

I love doing concentration curls to finish off biceps. You can spot yourself with free hand and do forced reps and negatives without a partner.

So do I

What's everybody opinion on creatine? Is it worth it or it depends on the individual?

Yes I use it, not been on it for a few months but I do use it and like it pre and post training.

[Hazard]

That's some weight big guy, smokes me well done and gald to hear your back on track - what cycle are you on at the moment?

800 test 400 tren. Was going to run 800 tren e as I handle it real well but it's not necessary. I'm doing real well. Ill be off in a few weeks an then will go back on in spring for my "mock show"

[Hazard]

800 test 400 tren. Was going to run 800 tren e as I handle it real well but it's not necessary. I'm doing real well. Ill be off in a few weeks an then will go back on in spring for my "mock show"

I started the tren at 800 to be clear. Dropped it

[marcus300]

800 test 400 tren. Was going to run 800 tren e as I handle it real well but it's not necessary. I'm doing real well. Ill be off in a few weeks an then will go back on in spring for my "mock show"

Many prefer tren higher than test but I running them equal both build tissue so why hold back so long as sides can be controlled. How come you dropped it did you experience bad sides

[Capebuffalo]

Arms

[Igifuno]

Vascularity is sick cape. You're back with a vengeance dude. Who pissed you off?

[Capebuffalo]

Vascularity is sick cape. You're back with a vengeance dude. Who pissed you off?

You know who. Got my judgement. Aka a piece of paper. Lol

Thanks buddy. Am I seeing abs in your avi? Looking great

[Igifuno]

You know who. Got my judgement. Aka a piece of paper. Lol Thanks buddy. Am I seeing abs in your avi? Looking great

Glad it went your way man. Also glad you took your aggression out with the iron instead of that unfortunate fool's face.

Abs? Maybe a couple tough to maintain on a bulk but have been working them pretty hard.

Looks like this ice storm in Dallas should clear up within a few hours. Flight may be delayed but I'm hopeful to get home tonight. Need my gym.. This is day 3 off..

[Capebuffalo]

Glad it went your way man. Also glad you took your aggression out with the iron instead of that unfortunate fool's face.

Abs? Maybe a couple tough to maintain on a bulk but have been working them pretty hard.

Looks like this ice storm in Dallas should clear up within a few hours. Flight may be delayed but I'm hopeful to get home tonight. Need my gym.. This is day 3 off..

The rest will have been good for you. You may now attack at will. And kill with extreme prejudice.

[Igifuno]

Will attack from the flank, taking no prisoners..

[kelkel]

kel, just for discussion sake, in an attempt to change muscle shape and appearance: if i like the appearance of prominent gastroc, the double muscle belly look, instead of a thick full calf look, can i just train standing and not focus on soleus?

A developed soleus will enhance, not detract from the appearance of the gastroc. It will give a fuller and wider appearance. Like the asshat below....



Throw them in occasionally.

[kelkel]

I havnt used Creatine since highschool..... Other than what's already in a shake I might have.

The only worthwhile supps IMO are glutamine, glucosamine, omegas, NAC, beta-alanine, aminos. I'm probably forgetting a few.....

if i were to buy creatine tho, it would be plain creatine monohydrate, no fancy stuff...

Creatine is good stuff guys....

Creatine - Scientific Review on Usage, Dosage, Side Effects | Examine.com

[Hazard]

Many prefer tren higher than test but I running them equal both build tissue so why hold back so long as sides can be controlled. How come you dropped it did you experience bad sides

It's a strong compound..... I'm confident I can do over a gram a week and not have sides. I don't experience sides like many do. I just figured after a long lay off - I want to stay safe and not tear anything by getting too strong too fast. I'd love to bump it up now but there's no point :-p

[biggjd69]

IG and Cape, looks somebody pissed both of you guys off,lol. You guys are on it big time. Great look. Hazard you are a beast. Getting ready for arms today. Eating 8 eggs and grits before heading out

[marcus300]

A developed soleus will enhance, not detract from the appearance of the gastroc. It will give a fuller and wider appearance. Like the asshat below....



Throw them in occasionally.

Sick

[biggjd69]

Getting to hit it

[Igifuno]

A developed soleus will enhance, not detract from the appearance of the gastroc. It will give a fuller and wider appearance. Like the asshat below.... <img src="http://forums.steroid.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=146729"/><img src="http://forums.steroid.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=146730"/><img src="http://forums.steroid.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=146731"/> Throw them in occasionally.

Looks like your calfs swallowed some dinosaur teeth.

[Igifuno]

<img src="http://forums.steroid.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=146734"/> Getting to hit it

Abs are popping!!

[Hazard]

Lmfao kel your calves are truely sick.....

[biggjd69]

Naw, they need a lot of work IG

[Igifuno]

Naw, they need a lot of work IG

On your way man. It's an on going never ending journey and we're all on it together.

[redhawk01]

A developed soleus will enhance, not detract from the appearance of the gastroc. It will give a fuller and wider appearance. Like the asshat below....

<img src="http://forums.steroid.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=146729"/><img src="http://forums.steroid.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=146730"/><img src="http://forums.steroid.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=146731"/>

Throw them in occasionally.

Reminds me of Arnold's calves in Twins.

[sawyer86]

Kel you look like you would win a show!

[kelkel]

Lmfao kel your calves are truely sick.....

Too small these days. Have to start wearing pumps around the house again. Just don't give my secret away.

[marcus300]

Getting to hit it

Keep up the good work

[marcus300]

It's a strong compound..... I'm confident I can do over a gram a week and not have sides. I don't experience sides like many do. I just figured after a long lay off - I want to stay safe and not tear anything by getting too strong too fast. I'd love to bump it up now but there's no point :-p

Sounds good to me haz. Slow and steady strength gains

[kelkel]

Back and shoulders calling my name.

Heavy T-Bars are the order of the day. I can feel it.....hope my knee doesn't!

[Igifuno]

Flight cancelled. Must seek out gym tonight.

[RipOwens]

Flight cancelled. Must seek out gym tonight.

Do it IG....!!

Back for me today. Excited for the session.

[marcus300]

There's no better feeling than being on test but after years of using will we ever feel normal again when we have been use to feeling like 100 men?

That's the conversation I've had with a hardcore long term bodybuilder who's at the top of his game.