Is my cycle to long?

[innerg]

I have not been on the boards in a long time and it seems like things have changed but not sure.

this is it

Wk 1-12 Test E 900mg
Wk 1-11 Deca 600 mg
Wk 1-4 Dbol 50mg/day
Wk 13-20 Test E 300mg
Wk 13-20 Tren A 50-100/day

on week 5 now.


just wondering

[DexterMorgan]

I have not been on the boards in a long time and it seems like things have changed but not sure.

this is it

Wk 1-12 Test E 900mg
Wk 1-11 Deca 600 mg
Wk 1-4 Dbol 50mg/day
Wk 13-20 Test E 300mg
Wk 13-20 Tren A 50-100/day

on week 5 now.


just wondering

Yes, Your cycle is too long. I wouldn't go over 16 weeks. The longer you stay on, the harder it is to recover. Also, keep test dose the same throughout the cycle.

[innerg]

any other thoughts?

[Bio-Active]

Your cycle is to long

[itsjayman02]

any other thoughts?

Agreed too long !!

[innerg]

how would you play it out with these compounds? on week 5 now.

[mk19gunner]

I have not been on the boards in a long time and it seems like things have changed but not sure.

this is it

Wk 1-12 Test E 900mg
Wk 1-11 Deca 600 mg
Wk 1-4 Dbol 50mg/day
Wk 13-20 Test E 300mg
Wk 13-20 Tren A 50-100/day

on week 5 now.


just wondering

So basically your doing a classic T/D/Dbol cycle and then jumping straight in to a cutting cycle.

I think 6 or 7 weeks of pinning Tren A everyday is going to be hell. I normally do a short ester cycle for only 3 or 4 weeks, pinning every other day.

If it was my gear I would run the the T/D/Dbol cycle like this: Deca 12weeks, Test 14 weeks and dbol at 4 weeks on the tail end. Others prefer Dbol on the front end in the first 4 weeks.

I would run HCG twice a week on Mon's and Thurs' at 250ius beginning the 2nd week.

What AI's do you have available for running during your cycle (caber, letrozole, Arimedex, bromo, etc.) for a T/D/Dbol cycle? You need to be prepared for the gyno.

At the end I would run the PCT about 2 weeks after the last injection of Test E. Then get a blood lipids panel and a blood panel on total Testosterone and estradiol.

If everything looks good in your lab reports then go to the cutting cycle of Tren and Test E and continue HCG therapy through the cycle and then follow PCT therapy as above.

[innerg]

Your cycle is to long

How would you play it out with the compounds I listed. im on week 5 now

Thanks

[innerg]

You need to be prepared for the gyno.

Gyno will not be a problem. Glands are removed already ( hell in fact I wish I could get a little Gyno as I have light dents from it .

[mk19gunner]

Ok, thats pretty rare. I don't meet a lot of people on the boards that had their glands removed.

This is just me talking, I would still still split both cycles up and get blood work done to look for blood lipid numbers and Hematocrit count. If you haven't maxed those numbers out and everything is going good for you then I would hit the cutting cycle.

Cheers bro!

[innerg]

Ok, thats pretty rare. I don't meet a lot of people on the boards that had their glands removed.

Its pretty common. young dumb kids hitting a cycle in there early 20s PCT??? what the hell is that? 10 years later Moobs finally removed haha. Trust me its pretty common. no one talks about it tho. im 33 now and I see it alot.

anyhow cool.

[kelkel]

Who put this cycle together and what's your goal?

[AnabolicBoy1981]

i've done it...but not with 19nors. I think that would be too suppressive. If your gonna do a cycle that long i'd do it with test and and some DHTs for second half. But you also wouldnt want to be on DHTs for 20wks for cholesterol reasons, just the second half. The dhts would also help any SHBG thats starting to rise at that point if any.

[kelkel]

SHBG should not rise on cycle. Test suppresses SHBG.

[innerg]

Who put this cycle together and what's your goal?

The guy I get gear from (UG lab)

Goal was to just and cut is all.

[Bio-Active]

How would you play it out with the compounds I listed. im on week 5 now Thanks

are you planning to add hcg and an AI to the mix? What's your planned pct? Without those things in place I wouldn't run the cycle at all

[innerg]

are you planning to add hcg and an AI to the mix? What's your planned pct? Without those things in place I wouldn't run the cycle at all

ya I run HCG 20Ius a day. I take Nova as well ( water retention ) like I said above Gyno is no concern ZERO.

[Cuz]

The guy I get gear from (UG lab)

Goal was to just and cut is all.

You must have a few cycles under your belt.

Stop the deca at week 10
Run the test E to week 12
dbol if you have to

forget the rest of it.

That's not a typical cutting cycle you realize this right? I would bulk with this cycle.

Don't forgot your hcg, ai, and prami/caber if you need it.

[Bio-Active]

ya I run HCG 20Ius a day. I take Nova as well ( water retention ) like I said above Gyno is no concern ZERO.

pct?

[kelkel]

ya I run HCG 20Ius a day. I take Nova as well ( water retention ) like I said above Gyno is no concern ZERO.

The absolute LEAST of your concerns with an AI should be gyno. The far more insidious effects of high estrogen are internal, not external. My god man, run an AI on cycle. You are absolutely nuts not to. Elevated E increases the risk of stroke, cardio vascular disease, loss of muscle tone, libido and the list can go on.

[innerg]

The absolute LEAST of your concerns with an AI should be gyno. The far more insidious effects of high estrogen are internal, not external. My god man, run an AI on cycle. You are absolutely nuts not to. Elevated E increases the risk of stroke, cardio vascular disease, loss of muscle tone, libido and the list can go on.

Cool what would you run? I have a lot of crap in the "old box" and can get anything i want or need.

so lay it out. forums are complete chaos IMO so much conflicting thoughts. Not saying you guys are wrong just saying I have read and been told other thoughts.

But keep it KISS and tell me what you would take for it.

PS my doc with script me anything I want as well.

[kelkel]

Well for a typical 500mg test cycle the average adex amount is .25mg EOD. You are running much more than that so most would end up a bit higher, but BW is really the only way to tell. .25 is a starting point for you anyway. Remember, you're also running a progestin and when E is not controlled you can then have issues related to prg/prl as well.

Take some time and read Austinites Educational Articles sticky thread. Get yourself caught up on this innerg. Be safe with it.

[innerg]

Well for a typical 500mg test cycle the average adex amount is .25mg EOD. You are running much more than that so most would end up a bit higher, but BW is really the only way to tell. .25 is a starting point for you anyway. Remember, you're also running a progestin and when E is not controlled you can then have issues related to prg/prl as well.

Take some time and read Austinites Educational Articles sticky thread. Get yourself caught up on this innerg. Be safe with it.

Ya I have spent hours is the past reading it its all conflicting chaos ( no offense) put appreciate you.

[Cuz]

conflicting chaos? do you mean other forums views on things?

[kelkel]

Ya I have spent hours is the past reading it its all conflicting chaos ( no offense) put appreciate you.

Always better safe than sorry innerg. A little caution goes a long way.

[Igifuno]

The absolute LEAST of your concerns with an AI should be gyno. The far more insidious effects of high estrogen are internal, not external. My god man, run an AI on cycle. You are absolutely nuts not to. Elevated E increases the risk of stroke, cardio vascular disease, loss of muscle tone, libido and the list can go on.

This would be my concern for you as well. Just because you had your glads removed, you still need to control your E2 levels and therefore should have an AI regimine.

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...rogen-men.html

[innerg]

Cool. I just picked up a bunch of stuff. started tonight.

[jgrayson60]

Your balls are guna disappear lol

[NaijaBoy]

Why so complicated? Whatever happened to the K.I.S.S, tried and true cycles?