Thanks, I appreciate it. I know if I keep lifting I'll get there eventually because 20lb of muscle isn't that bad to put on when you're only 165 pounds but I want to be a certain size before college is over. It sounds sort of immature but all of the young and really ripped guys I see at my college are on them and the ones who aren't on them aren't ripped. if I just wait it out and take my time, I won't be the age I want to be with the physique I want if that makes any sense. It's hard for me to explain lol