bulk cut bulk cut...when do yiu stop and maintain ?

[enigma10]

The biggest contributing factor to bulking or cutting is your diet. Many of the same compounds can be used synonymously for either bulking or cutting. Typically, however, compounds that create bloat such as dbol or drol are avoided in a cutting cycle. A very simple and popular cutting cycle is test!

Other popular compounds for cutting is tren, winny, var, but not always necessary. Not sure off hand what your stats or cycle history is, so before running out and buying all of the aforementioned compounds, do some research and figure out what's right for you. But, diet is the single most important thing you need to have figured out to accomplish your goals, whether it be bulking or cutting.

Ah, I see ok usually when bulk then cutting one will bulk the same amount of timd as cutting
So if im bulking with high calorie ...how long do I do that for, norrmal 12 weeks ? Then keep bulking with lower calorie for say the same amount of time then back to the higher calorie bulk?

I'm going to start with test c then I was planning on test and tren. This is what I did last time about 2 years ago and this is what u want to do now.

[Igifuno]

Ah, I see ok usually when bulk then cutting one will bulk the same amount of timd as cutting
So if im bulking with high calorie ...how long do I do that for, norrmal 12 weeks ? Then keep bulking with lower calorie for say the same amount of time then back to the higher calorie bulk?

I'm going to start with test c then I was planning on test and tren. This is what I did last time about 2 years ago and this is what u want to do now.

Again there is no rule.. there is no set time frame in which you're 'supposed to' bulk for. Also, do not lower your calories when bulking. Think about it, if you're bulking, keep your calories 5-800 above maintenance on a bulk, regardless of whether you're cycling or not. As I stated above, I'm currently bulking, and will end my cycle in a matter of weeks, but plan on continuing to bulk for the next several months (until May), at which time, assuming I meet my bulking goals, I will begin to cut.

So when cutting, as opposed to eating above maintenance, I will eat slightly below maintenance and will continue intense training throughout. But until then, caloric intake will stay high. Recalculate your TDEE and macros as your body changes and when your goals (bulk vs. cut) change.

[enigma10]

Again there is no rule.. there is no set time frame in which you're 'supposed to' bulk for. Also, do not lower your calories when bulking. Think about it, if you're bulking, keep your calories 5-800 above maintenance on a bulk, regardless of whether you're cycling or not. As I stated above, I'm currently bulking, and will end my cycle in a matter of weeks, but plan on continuing to bulk for the next several months (until May), at which time, assuming I meet my bulking goals, I will begin to cut.

So when cutting, as opposed to eating above maintenance, I will eat slightly below maintenance and will continue intense training throughout. But until then, caloric intake will stay high. Recalculate your TDEE and macros as your body changes and when your goals (bulk vs. cut) change.

ok, i see....now when off cycle you suggested to keep my maintenance the same and hit just as hard, wont i gain a few more unwanted pounds as im not cycling so i cant do as much or go as far ?

Also are you off cycle as much as you are on and when off cycle do you take anything ?

[songdog]

it really wont be hard because you will notice when you are getting a lil puffy in certain areas.Then you cut back.I just wish I followed my own advice