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    Quote Originally Posted by 2Sox View Post
    I don't know if you have posted this information elsewhere on the forum, but what diagnostic testing have you had done to determine where your symptoms are arising from? You are extremely young and TRT at you age should only be entered into after very careful consideration.

    Regarding your depression: We all know that the mind-body connection is in many ways mysterious and complex and we can't always know what is affecting our state of mind at any given time. The body always affects the mind and vice versa. But from my own experience and in my view, we always have a choice as to how we want to think and behave. It's very easy to blame our state of mind on a physical condition and then swallow a pill. Many physicians are harmful enablers of this.

    I've learned that we always have a choice to either find meaning and value in the world around us or see it as a hopeless mess. In other words we are either doing all we can to like the world or we are having contempt for it - making less of things, seeing things as unimportant, valueless and meaningless so we can gain a false superiority. One way makes us proud and happy and the other makes us ashamed and miserable. But even as we are miserable, we are kings and the most important persons alive. In their misery, depressed people are the centers of the universe. Needless to say, I speak from observation and personal knowledge.

    I do not want to patronize but I'd like to give some advice. The next time you feel yourself going into a funk, look around and see the simple beauty that surrounds you. I'd suggest you keep a journal and write about the things you like during the course of a day. I do. It has a cumulative good effect.
    Your background shines through in that diatribe 2Sox. No doubt you were impressive in your prior career!



    To the op. Did you ever find a causative factor?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    To the op. Did you ever find a causative factor?
    PJ,
    I think if you can answer Kel's question and give more information about you condition along with some blood work, more people can offer advice for you. I hope they do.

    I also hope you don't get discouraged at this difficult time. I'm fairly certain that no one on this forum underestimates the debilitating effects of depression - probably because everyone here has experienced it at one time or another in their life. And I'd guess that there are many here who are willing to offer you the benefit of their experience.

    This forum is a life saver. I know that I'm personally grateful to the people here who have educated and helped me on my journey. We are all here for each other, so please continue to ask questions and to keep an open mind.

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