for lean muscle gains does tren piss all over deca ???

[austinite]

Well it's such a broad question, flyguy. I just answered broadly, which would apply for any 2 steroids being compared. I couldnt tell you much about Trenbolone, but apparently it's a great nutrient partition-er. So unless you master managing water retention, tren might be a better choice if you can handle the side effects. Otherwise, if you ask me, there isn't a better steroid out there than Deca.

[Machdiesel]

Well it's such a broad question, flyguy. I just answered broadly, which would apply for any 2 steroids being compared. I couldnt tell you much about Trenbolone, but apparently it's a great nutrient partition-er. So unless you master managing water retention, tren might be a better choice if you can handle the side effects. Otherwise, if you ask me, there isn't a better steroid out there than Deca.

Do you put NPP in the same category as deca? 8'weeks of npp just as effective of 14 weeks of deca?

[Ronnie Rowland]

It's simple math: both diet and a combination of multiple drugs provides the best results. However, like marcus stated, you will lose the majority of those gains once you come off the drugs. In other words, if you are running test, tren and dbol ( one of the best stacks for size and strength), you will not be able to maintain all those gains once you have dropped back to using test only, and you will certainly lose most of those gains after PCT when you go off all drugs. The more drugs you use- the more size you lose upon cessation!

[austinite]

Do you put NPP in the same category as deca? 8'weeks of npp just as effective of 14 weeks of deca?

NPP and deca are the same steroid.

[rmill2110]

NPP and deca are the same steroid.

Okay, can tell you are a cheeky one.


What do you know about ester molecules, and how the affect mechanism of release, and integration into the blood stream?

An esters molecular length, and thus its weight does in fact, have an affect on what effects are achieved by the drug. Deca is nandrolone undecanoate, NPP is nandrolone phenyl propionate- yes they are both nandrolone, but NPP reacts much differently than Deca. Less water retention, faster onset, more strength gains, higher concentration of hormone available per mg, less side effects (no deca dick, but you wouldnt know about that- or would you? )

Get off your soap box, because technically you are correct, but in practicality, you are not.

[Lordluke]

Okay, can tell you are a cheeky one.


What do you know about ester molecules, and how the affect mechanism of release, and integration into the blood stream?

An esters molecular length, and thus its weight does in fact, have an affect on what effects are achieved by the drug. Deca is nandrolone undecanoate, NPP is nandrolone phenyl propionate- yes they are both nandrolone, but NPP reacts much differently than Deca. Less water retention, faster onset, more strength gains, higher concentration of hormone available per mg, less side effects (no deca dick, but you wouldnt know about that- or would you? )

Get off your soap box, because technically you are correct, but in practicality, you are not.

Why would there be no deca dick ? Anyway I hate the term deca dick. The reason you get erectile dysfunction isn’t based on esters champ, sorry to disappoint. It’s simply because of prolactin related issues. Caused when using19nor steroids

[kelkel]

Okay, can tell you are a cheeky one.


What do you know about ester molecules, and how the affect mechanism of release, and integration into the blood stream?

An esters molecular length, and thus its weight does in fact, have an affect on what effects are achieved by the drug. Deca is nandrolone undecanoate, NPP is nandrolone phenyl propionate- yes they are both nandrolone, but NPP reacts much differently than Deca. Less water retention, faster onset, more strength gains, higher concentration of hormone available per mg, less side effects (no deca dick, but you wouldnt know about that- or would you? )

Get off your soap box, because technically you are correct, but in practicality, you are not.

Soap box? You're the one getting your panties in a bunch over a thread that's 4 years old.....

[ghettoboyd]

Soap box? You're the one getting your panties in a bunch over a thread that's 4 years old.....

I'm sensing a banned member troll...no introduction just strait to an argument...

[ghettoboyd]

Okay, can tell you are a cheeky one.


What do you know about ester molecules, and how the affect mechanism of release, and integration into the blood stream?

An esters molecular length, and thus its weight does in fact, have an affect on what effects are achieved by the drug. Deca is nandrolone undecanoate, NPP is nandrolone phenyl propionate- yes they are both nandrolone, but NPP reacts much differently than Deca. Less water retention, faster onset, more strength gains, higher concentration of hormone available per mg, less side effects (no deca dick, but you wouldnt know about that- or would you? )

Get off your soap box, because technically you are correct, but in practicality, you are not.

stellar first post man to call out a hall of famer whom has more real word experience/knowledge than you with all compounds related to bbing...the one on the soap box is you...how about introducing yourself in the new member forum that's usually people first post to say hello to everyone, not to try to have a pissing contest...