Thinking about a first cycle (to cut) - looking for advice

[newguy92]

Thanks for the responses, guys. My training and diet regimen's are already quite advanced (I've read a lot, and talked a lot to a lot of experts about it ~ I think what I do is more or less the best thing there is to do). I cut down to 170 last summer (from an even higher starting point, like 210), and I was not at all pleased with the amount of muscle I retained, or my ultimate body fat percentage. I'm far stronger this winter at 190 than I've ever been, but still, I worry about this cut being another failure.. I thought that extra supplements might be of benefit to me this time around. Even if it's not "necessary", if it's something that might help me, I'd be really interested in learning more about it. *Also, I sort of like the idea of using extra supplements to retain muscle in a cut, as opposed to gaining it in a bulk. Wouldn't I eventually lose whatever muscle I gained in a bulk without further use anyways? Like I said, ideally, I'm not really interested in multiple cycles.

For a first cycle all you should use is testosterone. Ultimately your diet will dictate if you're cutting or not. If you're on testosterone and you're cutting you won't "blow up" as people think.

Week 1-10 testosterone enanthate 250mg 2x/week
Week 1-10 arimidex 0.25mg every other day
Week 1-10 HCG 250iu 2x/week
Post cycle therapy:
Week 12-16 Nolvadex 40/week for week 1, 20mg for next 3
Week 12-16 clomid 75 for week 1, 50mg for next 3

Also go read some of the educational threads. Don't just jump into this. Get educated and know what's going into your body.

[nussnussbaby]

For a first cycle all you should use is testosterone. Ultimately your diet will dictate if you're cutting or not. If you're on testosterone and you're cutting you won't "blow up" as people think.

Week 1-10 testosterone enanthate 250mg 2x/week
Week 1-10 arimidex 0.25mg every other day
Week 1-10 HCG 250iu 2x/week
Post cycle therapy:
Week 12-16 Nolvadex 40/week for week 1, 20mg for next 3
Week 12-16 clomid 75 for week 1, 50mg for next 3

Also go read some of the educational threads. Don't just jump into this. Get educated and know what's going into your body.

Thank you for the thoughtful and seemingly (hell if I know?) informed response! I'm going to keep reading the stickies on the board to educate myself.

*I've read about a lot of old-school body builders who bulked up naturally, and then cut on steroids - bc it helped them retain almost all of their muscle. But I've heard from various bro's that I'd gain weight no matter what on my first cycle. Good to hear that it's still all a matter of calories.

When I'm ready to go, I'm just curious, is there like a resident expert on the board whom everyone respects? I'd like to PM him or her a proposed plan (such as the one posted above) and see what they think about it before going through with it.