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    Quote Originally Posted by Legolas View Post
    Thanks a lot for ur help drew, the thing is i have been over this fat and weight loss many times, last time i lost more than 30kg in 2 years but i gained them all back because i had tendinitis in my knee and stopped working out add to that all the stress in life and the limited time between work and university etc.... which makes u indulge in junk foods and sweet foods.

    So the bottom line is that i have to do it all over again but this time with limited cardio and weight training because i also was very unfortunate to develop bicipital tendinitis a year ago, back then i wanted to get rid of the weight and joined the gym and ended up with an inflamed biceps tendon which im not fully healed till this very day.

    Thats why i thought of jumping my fat/weight loss journey with a t3/t4 and clen cycle for 2 months, which will enable me to do more cardio in the future since my knees will be carrying less weight.

    Regards....
    I understand where you're coming from Legolas, I've felt the same way.
    Have had my share of injuries too, and dealt with the emotional eating.

    What I've learned is until we stop making excuses for ourselves & poor behavior (emotional eating, etc.)
    We're just going to put it back on again regardless of how you take it off.

    It sounds like you've made the decision to lose the weight again, my hats off to you for that.
    It all starts with that decision.

    The hardest battle for me these days is putting on muscle, it's so valuable especially if you like to eat and you are trying to lose fat.
    The more muscle we have the higher our TDEE is which is awesome, I'm sure you know this.

    So I am going to echo what some have said about muscle loss, T3 esp. without the use of Test to save your muscle, to my understanding is muscle wasting.

    In my book that's going to do more harm than good in the long run.

    Easy come easy go, its a marathon not a sprint.

    I wish you the best, stay healthy friend.

    Drew

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrewZ View Post
    I understand where you're coming from Legolas, I've felt the same way.
    Have had my share of injuries too, and dealt with the emotional eating.

    What I've learned is until we stop making excuses for ourselves & poor behavior (emotional eating, etc.)
    We're just going to put it back on again regardless of how you take it off.

    It sounds like you've made the decision to lose the weight again, my hats off to you for that.
    It all starts with that decision.

    The hardest battle for me these days is putting on muscle, it's so valuable especially if you like to eat and you are trying to lose fat.
    The more muscle we have the higher our TDEE is which is awesome, I'm sure you know this.

    So I am going to echo what some have said about muscle loss, T3 esp. without the use of Test to save your muscle, to my understanding is muscle wasting.

    In my book that's going to do more harm than good in the long run.

    Easy come easy go, its a marathon not a sprint.

    I wish you the best, stay healthy friend.

    Drew
    Thanks a lot drew

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    Question

    Would proviron at 50mg per day during this t3/t4 clen cycle prevent muscle loss ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legolas View Post
    Would proviron at 50mg per day during this t3/t4 clen cycle prevent muscle loss ?
    NO!

    Get your diet in order! Seriously!!!

    ~T

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    Quote Originally Posted by tarmyg View Post
    NO!

    Get your diet in order! Seriously!!!

    ~T
    I did, i really did im having 1600-1700 cals per day, around 150-160 grams of protein each day my carbs are also balanced, around 80-100g per day. And i started my training again but as i have said before, ive lose all what i have done 2 and a half years ago ( gained the fat back and lost the muscle mass i had built ) and now i have to start training again with my biceps tendon prone to inflammation at any given moment so that's why i resorted to t3/t4 just to get me through this difficult period of two months.

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