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    I was reading about my insurance and it says that injectable are to be used/covered only after a topical, such as androgel has been tried and failed. I saw on a different forum someone suggested throwing away the topical to get the to the injectable. I feel like the doc is probably not stupid and would know if I wasn't taking the prescription to manipulate to situation. Any suggestions? Are topicals worth the while? Or, am I just wasting my time trying to get TRT legally vs just going black market?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WilmingtonPL View Post
    I was reading about my insurance and it says that injectable are to be used/covered only after a topical, such as androgel has been tried and failed. I saw on a different forum someone suggested throwing away the topical to get the to the injectable. I feel like the doc is probably not stupid and would know if I wasn't taking the prescription to manipulate to situation. Any suggestions? Are topicals worth the while? Or, am I just wasting my time trying to get TRT legally vs just going black market?
    Rather odd for an insurance to stipulate that as gels are much more expensive. There's nothing wrong with gels such as Androgel 1.62% etc. I used it initially but eventually had absorption issues. Many do very well on gels, you just have to try and then evaluate it. See if it works for your lifestyle or not. It's far better than low T, right!

    And yes, an astute doctor would know if you're manipulating things. No, you're not wasting time doing it the right way. Self-administering a protocol is an extreme last resort, imho. Partner up with your doctor and self-educate at the same time. You're not a number on a chart and make sure you're not treated that way. If in time you don't like the gels I'm sure if you're up front with your doc you can probably find a way to move over to injections.

    Good luck Wilmington.
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    I went to a GP (not the A4M doc) and re-tested. My T came back at 117. I did try to tank it a little but all I did was cut out fat and carbs for that dinner and breakfast and cut my sleep to 5 hours so I doubt I did much. More interestingly he found hypothyroidism and wants to start me on thyroid replacement. He's ready to start me on topical T-replacement after my MRI results come back. He wants to rule out cancer first. He did say that if we went to injections that they would be every 8-10 days and I could expect to crash before each injection. Why would he purposely send me on a roller coaster rather than inject every 5 days? I figure he'll eventually let me self administer but it seems like it's gonna be a long drawn out process getting there. Oh, and he asked me about power lifting so I guess he's had me pegged as a drug seeker at first but I think after comming back so low he shouldn't have any reason to not trust me. I'm wondering if I should just be honest and tell him now that I want my T to be around 800, not the bottom of normal, or should I just be a good little patient and play along for a while first. I know no one can give me a definitive answer on these questions but you guys have a lot more experience than me so any input is appreciated. Thanks!
    Last edited by WilmingtonPL; 02-17-2014 at 10:59 PM. Reason: wasnt finished

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