Debating two approaches for my first cycle - Would LOVE input..

[nussnussbaby]

To answer your question though, diet and cardio. There isn't a "one size fits all" solution. Genetics, age, nutrition, health characteristics, frequency and intensity of training.....there are so many variables involved that I don't think there's one precise answer. Obviously, cutting calories to sub TDEE, increasing cardio, and burning more calories than you consume will reduce bf. It's almost impossible not to experience a slight drop in strength and possibly even a little loss in muscle mass. How much really depends on your genetics and the program you stick to.

Sure, you can eat 600 calories a day and your bf will drop but so will strength and lean muscle. There isn't one plan that works with the same results for every person. Some lose weight faster, others more slowly. "Move more, eat less" is as simple as it gets. Gear will help regulate muscle loss but anyone who has done this long enough will tell you that if your calories are too low, energy, strength, and muscle mass will decrease even with gear.

1-you're wrong. read that site. i did zero cardio (aside from occasional walking/rec sports) in reaching and maintaining 6.1%bf. i repeat, read every word on that website about ten times.

2-what are you talking about!? My question was about which approach to cycling would be best after losing weight.

[AlphaMike]

1-you're wrong. read that site. i did zero cardio (aside from occasional walking/rec sports) in reaching and maintaining 6.1%bf. i repeat, read every word on that website about ten times.

2-what are you talking about!? My question was about which approach to cycling would be best after losing weight.

Man I really wanna believe you...but I trust MI's opinion more and you come off a little arrogant. You kinda derailed your own thread by posting that bit about the bf%, it casts doubt on everything else you say.

[MuscleInk]

Man I really wanna believe you...but I trust MI's opinion more and you come off a little arrogant. You kinda derailed your own thread by posting that bit about the bf%, it casts doubt on everything else you say.

Well, I'm done. It would have been an interesting dialogue and I'm certain there would have been some great opinions bantered about, but he seems to think he knows it all so I'm not waisting my time with him.

Good luck.

[nussnussbaby]

Well, I'm done. It would have been an interesting dialogue and I'm certain there would have been some great opinions bantered about, but he seems to think he knows it all so I'm not waisting my time with him.

Good luck.

I exercised a total of, idk, about an hour a week to get into that shape, in the picture I posted above (same amount I exercised to get to six%). What do you look like? How often do you train? Welcome to the real world dude - - you don't know what you're doing in the gym or in the kitchen. And neither do most of the idiots writing in your stupid magazines. *I'm no genetic marvel either. I started off at 240+lbs, 30+%bf.

I know very little about steroids. Hence the reason I am here. Hence the reason I asked the question I asked. I sure as hell know a lot more about training and nutrition than you if you think cardio is even a part of how you get to six%bf. Put down the moron body-building magazines repeating Arnold-isms and take a look at some scientific research done in this millennium. If you even have access to academic journal articles, that is.

You, along with the rest of the contributors to this thread thus far, have contributed NOTHING to answering that one, simple question. Either tell me what you think about my question. Or move on. And don't waste my time.

Read the site, talk to me, and learn how to train.. or don't. I don't care.

[AlphaMike]

I exercised a total of, idk, about an hour a week total to get into that shape, in the picture I posted above (same amount I exercised to get to six%). What do you look like? How often do you train? Welcome to the real world dude - - you don't know what you're doing in the gym or in the kitchen. And neither do most of the idiots writing in your stupid magazines. *I'm no genetic marvel either. I started off at 240+lbs, 30+%bf.

I know very little about steroids. Hence the reason I am here. Hence the reason I asked the question I asked. I sure as hell know a lot more about training and nutrition than you if you think cardio is even a part of how you get to six%bf. Put down the moron body-building magazines repeating Arnold-isms and take a look at some scientific research done in this millennium. If you even have access to academic journal articles, that is.

You, along with the rest of the contributors to this thread thus far, have contributed NOTHING to answering that one, simple question. Either tell me what you think about my question. Or move on. And don't waste my time.

Read the site, talk to me, and learn how to train.. or don't. I don't care.

[nussnussbaby]

Man I really wanna believe you...but I trust MI's opinion more and you come off a little arrogant. You kinda derailed your own thread by posting that bit about the bf%, it casts doubt on everything else you say.

I don't care if you ever learn how to train right or not. If you have input to add to my question, please, do. If you want to hijack this thread into pointlessness, please, move on.

[MuscleInk]

1-you're wrong. read that site. i did zero cardio (aside from occasional walking/rec sports) in reaching and maintaining 6.1%bf. i repeat, read every word on that website about ten times.

2-what are you talking about!? My question was about which approach to cycling would be best after losing weight.

Carry on with THAT attitude and you'll be discussing this with yourself.