pre existing gyno

[NoBulkNoCutJustGrow]

with using the tamoxifen while on cycle can any effect on gains ?
and sorry my height is 5'10"

It is believed that high doses of Tamoxifen may lower IGF-1 levels but only slightly and prevent muscle build up in the chest muscles or any other muscles with receptors where tamoxifen exerts it's influence due to the lack of estrogen which is needed to build muscle; at only 10 mg I don't believe there's much of a impact in that regard. I'd say for on cycle 10 mg will give you piece of mind in terms of any gyno that might flare up and the negative effect it might have are negligible at best at that dose. If you weren't on cycle then you could expect your gains to be hindered for sure but with AAS in your system it's not an issue IMO.

[devil-1986]

It is believed that high doses of Tamoxifen may lower IGF-1 levels but only slightly and prevent muscle build up in the chest muscles or any other muscles with receptors where tamoxifen exerts it's influence due to the lack of estrogen which is needed to build muscle; at only 10 mg I don't believe there's much of a impact in that regard. I'd say for on cycle 10 mg will give you piece of mind in terms of any gyno that might flare up and the negative effect it might have are negligible at best at that dose. If you weren't on cycle then you could expect your gains to be hindered for sure but with AAS in your system it's not an issue IMO.

thank u bro , let me ask u something have you get gyno before ? or do you have ever start cycling with pre existing gyno ? if yes tell me what do u do for reverse it ?

[NoBulkNoCutJustGrow]

thank u bro , let me ask u something have you get gyno before ? or do you have ever start cycling with pre existing gyno ? if yes tell me what do u do for reverse it ?

No problem brother.

Yeah I have man; once during cycle after a dbol kick start. That dbol is dangerously renown for that if your're not careful. This is what I did: (mind you I was on dbol and close to a gram of test)

week 1: First 3 days: 60 mg ED then last 4 days: 40mg Nolva ED / Aromasin 25mg ED
Week 2: 40mg Nolva ED / Aromasin 25mg ED
Wee 3 - until it subsides: 20mg Nolva ED / Aromasin 12.5mg ED
Then maintenance dose of 10 mg after it subsides if you're still on cycle when it does.

Now I run a maintenance dose of 10 mg ED along with my AI from the start of cycle and haven't had any issues again. You can start a cycle on a pre-existing gyno flare up but it'll just take longer for the gyno to be reversed because there's more (testosterone converting to estrogen) to fight off; I would take care of the gyno first though but that's just me.

[devil-1986]

No problem brother.

Yeah I have man; once during cycle after a dbol kick start. That dbol is dangerously renown for that if your're not careful. This is what I did: (mind you I was on dbol and close to a gram of test)

week 1: First 3 days: 60 mg ED then last 4 days: 40mg Nolva ED / Aromasin 25mg ED
Week 2: 40mg Nolva ED / Aromasin 25mg ED
Wee 3 - until it subsides: 20mg Nolva ED / Aromasin 12.5mg ED
Then maintenance dose of 10 mg after it subsides if you're still on cycle when it does.

Now I run a maintenance dose of 10 mg ED along with my AI from the start of cycle and haven't had any issues again. You can start a cycle on a pre-existing gyno flare up but it'll just take longer for the gyno to be reversed because there's more (testosterone converting to estrogen) to fight off; I would take care of the gyno first though but that's just me.

many thanks to you buddy ,I need tell you something before start your protocol i'm start 40 mg ed of tamoxifen one weeks ago for one week and currently on 20 mg for another week i'll start my cycle from Saturday , would you recommend me to stop tamoxifen now and start your protocol from Saturday or use this 20 mg until Saturday then switch to your protocol ?

[NoBulkNoCutJustGrow]

many thanks to you buddy ,I need tell you something before start your protocol i'm start 40 mg ed of tamoxifen one weeks ago for one week and currently on 20 mg for another week i'll start my cycle from Saturday , would you recommend me to stop tamoxifen now and start your protocol from Saturday or use this 20 mg until Saturday then switch to your protocol ?

No just stick back with the 40 mg right away for another week or so; so it'll be 2 weeks or so doing 40 mg; once you start to see the gyno soften then that means it's receding and you can go down to 20 mg ED until it's gone and then just do 10 mg ED for the entire cycle just to be safe. If it's soft already and not hard then just go to 20 mg until it's completely gone. Make sure to use the AI as well at a high dose. Good luck bro.

[devil-1986]

No just stick back with the 40 mg right away for another week or so; so it'll be 2 weeks or so doing 40 mg; once you start to see the gyno soften then that means it's receding and you can go down to 20 mg ED until it's gone and then just do 10 mg ED for the entire cycle just to be safe. If it's soft already and not hard then just go to 20 mg until it's completely gone. Make sure to use the AI as well at a high dose. Good luck bro.

ok then would you recommend me to don't start the cycle and wait until gyno completely gone ? ohh ... this can take much time .
in your pre-cycle protocol can i ran 0.5 mg eod of letro Instead of aromasin ? because i haven't aromasin and it's very hard to find

[NoBulkNoCutJustGrow]

ok then would you recommend me to don't start the cycle and wait until gyno completely gone ? ohh ... this can take much time .
in your pre-cycle protocol can i ran 0.5 mg eod of letro Instead of aromasin ? because i haven't aromasin and it's very hard to find

Shouldn't take more than 3 weeks if it's not too advanced brother. In 3 weeks you should be close to if not completely cleared if it's small. If it's full blown gynecomastia then yes it would take a lot longer. You can start the cycle if you'd like just it'll take longer than 3 weeks for the gyno to be completely gone.

Here's the aromasin in liquid. I've bought form them before they're legit.

Exemestane 30mL 25mg/mL