Back at it! Low tren/Big results!

[Unrealone]

Why LOWER your standard TRT dose?

to lessen the tren sides, i assume...its not uncommon... he said they were brutal on his first cycle... i would do the same if i got bad sides from tren...

[GymHero]

exactly.

[Lunk1]

to lessen the tren sides, i assume...its not uncommon... he said they were brutal on his first cycle... i would do the same if i got bad sides from tren...

Thanks for the heads up on this. Now can you tell me how on earth lowering your test to below TRT range will lessen TREN side effects?

[kelkel]

Now can you tell me how on earth lowering your test to below TRT range will lessen TREN side effects?

X2. Counter productive and does not make sense.

[Unrealone]

Thanks for the heads up on this. Now can you tell me how on earth lowering your test to below TRT range will lessen TREN side effects?

you mean besides the fact that its common knowledge and almost everyone who lowers test while on tren, has less side effects? he told you, himself, that he cant handle the sides...so he is dropping the tren dose,.. and it stands to reason that if he is trying to lessen the sides, he is going to need to lower his test dose, as well... i might not be as familiar with trt ranges as you, but i can tell you that im going to lower my test every single time i run tren and its not going to make a difference if im on trt or not...

perhaps, since he is going to run a reasonably low dose of tren, he could try to keep his test the same and drop it if the sides are too much to handle

[DAAS]

blahh

[kelkel]

you mean besides the fact that its common knowledge and almost everyone who lowers test while on tren, has less side effects?

Bro science. Point me to a study please. Low test with tren cycles are great but everyone does not experience the same sides, regardless of T levels.
There is no reason to lower your TRT dose while on tren. Zero.

[Unrealone]

Bro science. Point me to a study please. Low test with tren cycles are great but everyone does not experience the same sides, regardless of T levels.
There is no reason to lower your TRT dose while on tren. Zero.

the worst horror stories come from those that either dont run test or run too much while on tren... sure, the tren sides effect everyone differently, but op has stated that they are brutal on him...so he is doing a bit of trial and error to see if he can control the sides... and there is nothing wrong with that... he needs to listen to his own body..dont you agree?

[kelkel]

the worst horror stories come from those that either dont run test or run too much while on tren... sure, the tren sides effect everyone differently, but op has stated that they are brutal on him...so he is doing a bit of trial and error to see if he can control the sides... and there is nothing wrong with that... he needs to listen to his own body..dont you agree?

Agree to a point. Anyone that doesn't run test is retarded. Too much test is subjective. My only concern is that if one is dialed in on TRT there is absolutely no science to back up lowering that dose just because you add tren to the mix. Simply maintain your TRT dose to keep your hormones balanced.

I do have an interesting medical study on Tren used for TRT. Rather forward thinking but obviously more research needs to be done.

[Ronnie Rowland]

Bro science. Point me to a study please. Low test with tren cycles are great but everyone does not experience the same sides, regardless of T levels.
There is no reason to lower your TRT dose while on tren. Zero.

I agree!

[GymHero]

My " actual " trt dose is 100mg which is where I started this journey and be has shown my e2 is perfect on that dose and no ai is necessary. I bumped it up on my own to 200mgs EW, yes my doc knows and I have be done bi weekly. I rather have my e2 in normal range and 0 fluctuation and no ai is needed. With more test and with more estrogen i get more sides with 19 Nors. Making this cycle more simple in my eyes. Trial and error on my own body has tought me a lot.

[Lunk1]

My " actual " trt dose is 100mg which is where I started this journey and be has shown my e2 is perfect on that dose and no ai is necessary. I bumped it up on my own to 200mgs EW, yes my doc knows and I have be done bi weekly. I rather have my e2 in normal range and 0 fluctuation and no ai is needed. With more test and with more estrogen i get more sides with 19 Nors. Making this cycle more simple in my eyes. Trial and error on my own body has tought me a lot.

I suspected you had upped it yourself and that info would present itself eventually lol. Your method is good and plan is solid as I mentioned before. I highly suggest using Prami or Caber if you are not going to utilize an AI.

[GymHero]

I suspected you had upped it yourself and that info would present itself eventually lol. Your method is good and plan is solid as I mentioned before. I highly suggest using Prami or Caber if you are not going to utilize an AI.

Im going to run as far as I can with no DA.

[FapOLantern]

My " actual " trt dose is 100mg which is where I started this journey and be has shown my e2 is perfect on that dose and no ai is necessary. I bumped it up on my own to 200mgs EW, yes my doc knows and I have be done bi weekly. I rather have my e2 in normal range and 0 fluctuation and no ai is needed. With more test and with more estrogen i get more sides with 19 Nors. Making this cycle more simple in my eyes. Trial and error on my own body has tought me a lot.

If only it had taught you how to spell...

But you`re right. Simple is always better. Good luck with your cycle!

[GymHero]

If only it had taught you how to spell...

But you`re right. Simple is always better. Good luck with your cycle!

haha you got me there bro