12 Week Bulk & Cut Cycle Decisions...Help Needed!

[JonnyRan]

Hey tren monster & bigtahl, I appreciate your responses.

I've been lifting more than 3 years, I'd say its nearer to 4 but don't let that lead you to think I have a lack of experience because I don't mess around when I go to the gym and never have. I have always trained hard, and eaten clean consistently. I do agree however after speaking to a few friends about this cycle I've removed tren from my mind until I am much more experienced. Also, thank you for your advice it is appreciated.

BigTahl, Although some people advise 25 is the correct age to start, I personally don't see a huge risk in a clean 12 wk cycle providing all the necessary precautions are taken.
1. I believe a lot of people run both cycles pre-comp with good results and I've seen some good members results in the past so I think to an extent you can hold the gains and lose body fat at the end of the cycle without too much damage?
2. I'll show you exactly what I plan to do at the end of this post.
4 + 5. Yes I'll be able to buy whatever is necessary, in preparation for this I stopped drinking completely a few weeks ago and begun making sure I get my 8 hours each night.

Sustanon 250 - 500mg per week, weeks 1-10
Dianabol - 30mg per day, weeks 1-4
Clen 120mcg e/d weeks 6-12 (2 weeks on 2 weeks off) - Although I will be building up to this dosage from the start..not starting on 120mcg.
Milk thistle during Dbol
Tamoxifen and every fourth day during cycle have a tamoxi
PCT: 3 pills tamoxifen first day of pct
Followed by 2 a day next days
Then one a day ten days after that

[tren_monster]

Hey tren monster & bigtahl, I appreciate your responses. I've been lifting more than 3 years, I'd say its nearer to 4 but don't let that lead you to think I have a lack of experience because I don't mess around when I go to the gym and never have. I have always trained hard, and eaten clean consistently. I do agree however after speaking to a few friends about this cycle I've removed tren from my mind until I am much more experienced. Also, thank you for your advice it is appreciated. BigTahl, Although some people advise 25 is the correct age to start, I personally don't see a huge risk in a clean 12 wk cycle providing all the necessary precautions are taken. 1. I believe a lot of people run both cycles pre-comp with good results and I've seen some good members results in the past so I think to an extent you can hold the gains and lose body fat at the end of the cycle without too much damage? 2. I'll show you exactly what I plan to do at the end of this post. 4 + 5. Yes I'll be able to buy whatever is necessary, in preparation for this I stopped drinking completely a few weeks ago and begun making sure I get my 8 hours each night. Sustanon 250 - 500mg per week, weeks 1-10 Dianabol - 30mg per day, weeks 1-4 Clen 120mcg e/d weeks 6-12 (2 weeks on 2 weeks off) - Although I will be building up to this dosage from the start..not starting on 120mcg. Milk thistle during Dbol Tamoxifen and every fourth day during cycle have a tamoxi PCT: 3 pills tamoxifen first day of pct Followed by 2 a day next days Then one a day ten days after that

Clen is a nasty ass compound with nasty sides that come along with it. It's among the few that I will NEVER use again. Among that list is Nolva and clomid.

I'd add in something other than milk thistle.

[JonnyRan]

Clen is a nasty ass compound with nasty sides that come along with it. It's among the few that I will NEVER use again. Among that list is Nolva and clomid.

I'd add in something other than milk thistle.

Each to their own, I've had it once before and was fine on it (apart from I was ridiculously hot a lot of the time).

What would you add in?

[tren_monster]

Each to their own, I've had it once before and was fine on it (apart from I was ridiculously hot a lot of the time). What would you add in?

Liver cleanse, blood pressure and lipid stabile.

[reporich]

Hey tren monster & bigtahl, I appreciate your responses.

I've been lifting more than 3 years, I'd say its nearer to 4 but don't let that lead you to think I have a lack of experience because I don't mess around when I go to the gym and never have. I have always trained hard, and eaten clean consistently. I do agree however after speaking to a few friends about this cycle I've removed tren from my mind until I am much more experienced. Also, thank you for your advice it is appreciated.

BigTahl, Although some people advise 25 is the correct age to start, I personally don't see a huge risk in a clean 12 wk cycle providing all the necessary precautions are taken.
1. I believe a lot of people run both cycles pre-comp with good results and I've seen some good members results in the past so I think to an extent you can hold the gains and lose body fat at the end of the cycle without too much damage?
2. I'll show you exactly what I plan to do at the end of this post.
4 + 5. Yes I'll be able to buy whatever is necessary, in preparation for this I stopped drinking completely a few weeks ago and begun making sure I get my 8 hours each night.

Sustanon 250 - 500mg per week, weeks 1-10
Dianabol - 30mg per day, weeks 1-4
Clen 120mcg e/d weeks 6-12 (2 weeks on 2 weeks off) - Although I will be building up to this dosage from the start..not starting on 120mcg.
Milk thistle during Dbol
Tamoxifen and every fourth day during cycle have a tamoxi
PCT: 3 pills tamoxifen first day of pct
Followed by 2 a day next days
Then one a day ten days after that

For a first cycle? Fail