3 bowls of cereal
2 bananas
2 eas builder bars
4 b&js
3 snack bags of lays
eas builder bar
footlong subway Philly cheese steak
a Caesar salad
16oz t-bone steak
like 6 dinner rolls
about a cup of esparragos
2 eas builder bars
minus shakes
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3 bowls of cereal
2 bananas
2 eas builder bars
4 b&js
3 snack bags of lays
eas builder bar
footlong subway Philly cheese steak
a Caesar salad
16oz t-bone steak
like 6 dinner rolls
about a cup of esparragos
2 eas builder bars
minus shakes
Neurologically Intact
Originally Posted by jfredo
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Wow. Please post this in the nutrition section and ask for help. That is pretty bad.
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What's eas builder bars, esparragos and b&js?
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Whereabouts is the food???
Potato chips, subway and eas bars?
Where is the nutrition?????
The steak may have been the only decent thing stuck in the ole pie hole.
Nutrition section is the key.
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Im not advocating use in this case. But theres so many young kids that think that they can run cycles with no tests or pct, then they get on here to ask a question and everybody bashes them, they're going to do what they want with or without us, I think they should be educated as a minimum... otherwise we're going to start seeing threads that say "c cup gyno with leakage" lol... just my.opinion tho...
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See above. That's not for your tdee. But it's a strait.
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AGE
In humans your Endocrine system is not fully functional until an average age of 25yrs, although the main development is up to around 21yrs it still fluctuates a little bit up to its fully functional age. There is a risk of permanently damaging your HPTA if you take AAS to young and you could end up with symptoms of andropause and HRT for life. Symptoms could be Limp dick, low libido, depression, low energy, low endurance, erection problems and many more but.......are these the types of symptoms you want to have in your 20's?. Believe me its hard to cope with these in your 40's yet alone in your prime of your life.
Around this age your Testosterone levels are the highest they going to be in your life naturally, so use what you have and don't take the risk of damage, I am passionate about this because ive seen it many times with young kids wanting to looking like their heroes and they think the answer is in an injection/tablet.
Taking AAS to young can also cause problems with development, one other main problem is premature sealing of your epiphyeal bone and the consequences mean that you wont grow as big as your genetics could allow you to, there is a test which can be done to see if your growth plates have sealed yet but the average age is around 21yrs old.
TRAINING
You need a few years of hard training under your belt before even considering taking any kind of anabolic support, people who jump on a cycle to soon without having some quality years under their belt usually results in injuries, it takes time to develop your connective tissue, tendons and nervous system to heavy overload training. Slowly getting your own system use to these kinds of extreme's will only help in muscle growth later on when you do decide to start taking AAS.
Build a solid foundation for muscle tissue to grow and maintaining and development will be far greater than without it. Many younger guys will start cycling before they have reached their genetic potential which is crazy when a good solid diet and training program will be far beneficial and productive to muscle building.
Workouts should be mainly focused on basic movements with a priority of over loading the muscle each and ever time you train, increasing your strength and ability to lift in proper form will help with building the foundation for future development
DIET
A lot of younger bodybuilders don't know how to eat. Researching and understanding how your own body responds will help you get to your natural limit, the right food at the right time and a full understanding of proteins,carbs, and fats will only help you succeed in achieving your natural goals. Keeping a diet diary will also help you understand the importance of macro, nutrients, calories and should help you see in which areas you could be going wrong in adding lean muscle tissue.
No matter how much anabolic support you have it will be worthless without proper nutrition, food will help build and maintain your valued muscle weather its natural, cycling or in PCT. Adjusting your food intake and consuming muscle building foods coupled with a solid training program will help you achieve your natural limit and foundation before you start AAS use.
This area is a huge problem with the younger guys and I can't express enough how important diet/food is when first starting out, post and pre training nutrition are very important and understanding how to load and feed the body will help push growth and create a very natural anabolic environment.
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That is Americano 101 healthy eating. Why they are all lard asses.
1. Potato chips are not a food group no matter what Rosanne Barr says.
2. Just like Jared huh? WORST food you can put in your body. Meat has more preservatives and taste additives than an Egyptian Mummy.
3. Caesar Salad. You just dumped about 1/4 your daily calories in a side of dressing.
I know being a Westerner means to be brain washed (I was once like that). Learn the diet and be healthy. I see guys who do 12 week cycles eating crap and make nil muscle gains and just bloat...all due to nutrition. I see guys doing 8 week cycles that rock because their diet is spot on. At minimum do not spend a grand and do a cycle then say,,,,sigh waste of money.
If there is one person on this site that is no BS and gives 100% straight answers it is Marcus. Listen to the man.
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