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    Quote Originally Posted by davesah1 View Post
    Aprazolam (Xanax) if all else fails. Especially since your an avid gym goer so I highly doubt its because your not physically tired but rather mentally not relaxed enough esp on tren. Yes the "sedative" effects wear off after a few weeks, but the mental calming and blank feeling doesn't and dont worry about w/d's if you take it once a night to sleep its fast acting with a short half life. Ambien sucks, stops working after a week. Melatonin didn't do jack. Oh, but its illegal so is cycling, lols. This is from personal experience of trying everything in the book. You could smoke a little Buddah and see if that works, but I hate the stuff.
    Xanax will absolutely lead to withdrawal if you take it nightly long enough. "Long enough" can mean as little as a few weeks for some people. Benzo withdrawal is a nightmare I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy.

    I've tried pretty much everything to fight insomnia over the years. Cannabis (taken orally) is the only thing that works reliably for me without withdrawal or major side effects.

    On tren, literally nothing worked for me. Some nights I'd get 2 hours of sleep. Some nights zero. After the second cycle I realized tren isn't for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by m314 View Post
    Xanax will absolutely lead to withdrawal if you take it nightly long enough. "Long enough" can mean as little as a few weeks for some people. Benzo withdrawal is a nightmare I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy.

    I've tried pretty much everything to fight insomnia over the years. Cannabis (taken orally) is the only thing that works reliably for me without withdrawal or major side effects.

    On tren, literally nothing worked for me. Some nights I'd get 2 hours of sleep. Some nights zero. After the second cycle I realized tren isn't for me.
    I've been taken .5mgs every night for 5 months and when I dont take it if I decide to get stoned I never have withdrawals. Just a little trouble sleeping if I am sober.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davesah1 View Post
    I've been taken .5mgs every night for 5 months and when I dont take it if I decide to get stoned I never have withdrawals. Just a little trouble sleeping if I am sober.
    You do realize having trouble sleeping is a classic withdrawal symptom....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Docd187123 View Post
    You do realize having trouble sleeping is a classic withdrawal symptom....
    I was prescribed it bc I had sleep anxiety issues. (Always watching the clock and stressing over not gettting as much sleep as I needed) So I couldnt sleep without it to begin with, soo yeah.
    If there's one thing I know more about than most people on these forums is "recreational drugs" If I was "withdrawing" I would have daily rebound anxiety, at the least, which I get none of. I don't even get the side effects it causes at such a low infrequent dose such as constipation. If you get addicted to xanax, you have some serious life issues or are just a junkie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davesah1 View Post
    I was prescribed it bc I had sleep anxiety issues. (Always watching the clock and stressing over not gettting as much sleep as I needed) So I couldnt sleep without it to begin with, soo yeah.
    If there's one thing I know more about than most people on these forums is "recreational drugs" If I was "withdrawing" I would have daily rebound anxiety, at the least, which I get none of. I don't even get the side effects it causes at such a low infrequent dose such as constipation. If you get addicted to xanax, you have some serious life issues or are just a junkie.

    Your last sentence is just ignorant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by michael30 View Post
    Your last sentence is just ignorant.
    What's addictive about Xanax? It's an anti anxiety med with minimal to no euphoria. So any normal (without anxiety issues) person with a life thats not a shit show shouldnt be abusing it to the point where the have withdrawals. Cocaine is a euhoria, heroin is a blissful euphoria. Xanax is just a derrrr uhhh blank feeling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davesah1 View Post
    What's addictive about Xanax? It's an anti anxiety med with minimal to no euphoria. So any normal (without anxiety issues) person with a life thats not a shit show shouldnt be abusing it to the point where the have withdrawals. Cocaine is a euhoria, heroin is a blissful euphoria. Xanax is just a derrrr uhhh blank feeling.
    Euphoria is not a prerequisite for physical addiction, although the two often go hand in hand. Xanax (alprazolam) is a benzodiazepine, a class of drugs that work by stimulating Gaba receptors (a gaba agonist); this is how they illicit their calming effects. Frequent use of benzodiazepines like Xanax cause down-regulation of the Gaba receptors, requiring higher doses to have the same effect, much like heroin and opiate receptors. As with Heroin use, the body begins to crave the exogenous medication, and begins going through withdraw when use is stopped. Unlike heroin, however, withdrawal from benzodiazepines, and especially Xanax, is far worse than opiates; death is a very serious and likely result of benzo withdraw.
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