My first newb Q's

[NoSheetSherlock]

Missed a couple points:

Save your money. Most trainers at franchised gyms don't know shit.

That may be true but I don't have any friends that are motivated enough to actually stick to a routine so I need to have someone keep me accountable and push me to my limit. Its not so much about their knowledge but someone to keep me on track.

***At 20 years of age, no one here is going to recommend steroids for you.***

Appreciate it but I wasn't really looking for recommendation or approval. Many guys use roids at my age very successfully so I don't see why it would be any different for me then any other full grown man that is older.

[numbere]

Many guys use roids at my age very successfully so I don't see why it would be any different for me then and other full grown man that is older.

You couldn't be more wrong. I say this with the best intentions and your heath in mind.

The Young and Steroids

[NoSheetSherlock]

You couldn't be more wrong. I say this with the best intentions and your heath in mind.

Im guessing you mean due to the fact that some guys are not fully developed at 20 years old? I have not grown a fraction of an inch since I was 15. I was 6'3" at that age and am still that height. No one in my family family tree less than a few generations back has been much taller then that so im pretty sure that I am done growing. Im not closed minded to learning what I should and shouldn't do but theres not too much that can convince me to not at the very least try it for a short time after reading the steroids.com side effects section which was actually what prompted me to actually consider roids and that they may not be as bad as I previously thought.

[MuscleInk]

Im guessing you mean due to the fact that some guys are not fully developed at 20 years old? I have not grown a fraction of an inch since I was 15. I was 6'3" at that age and am still that height. No one in my family family tree less than a few generations back has been much taller then that so im pretty sure that I am done growing. Im not closed minded to learning what I should and shouldn't do but theres not too much that can convince me to not at the very least try it for a short time after reading the steroids.com side effects section which was actually what prompted me to actually consider roids and that they may not be as bad as I previously thought.

Height has nothing to do with it. That statement clearly demonstrates your lack of knowledge of your own endocrine system which can continue in its development trajectory reaching maturation at about 25 years of age.

[MuscleInk]

Missed a couple points: That may be true but I don't have any friends that are motivated enough to actually stick to a routine so I need to have someone keep me accountable and push me to my limit. Its not so much about their knowledge but someone to keep me on track. Appreciate it but I wasn't really looking for recommendation or approval. Many guys use roids at my age very successfully so I don't see why it would be any different for me then any other full grown man that is older.

Here is another problem. If you need a trainer or friends to stay motivated, you haven't made enough of a commitment to even be discussing steroids.

No difference in age? Really? So shutting down the HTPA in your brain which controls your hormone cycles before it finishes developing around 25 isn't going to cause problems? Think again. I've treated plenty of guys your age (and I still get calls) who took steroids and now can't get erections, have little to no sex drive, can't produce enough of their own testosterone, are losing their hair, have estrogen related problems, are depressed, and more. There are plenty of young men your age who are members here for the sole purpose of getting help from steroid cycles that screwed them up - even cycles that were run correctly. You have absolutely no way of knowing if your HTPA will recover once you shut it off with steroids.

As for friends who may have used steroids and were "ok". Really? So if you use steroids and suddenly your dick can't get hard to save your life, are you really going to run around the neighborhood telling everyone your dick is as soft as a 90 year old make and so are your testosterone levels? I hardly think so and neither will your friends. If you think you lack confidence now will a leaner physique than you'd like, how much confidence are you going to have when you're with a girl and she's laughing at your 20-something year old limp dick and probably telling her friends that the hot guy she's dating can't get enough wood to bang a hot girl.

I'm sorry. This isn't what you want to hear. On this board, we encourage SAFE use of steroids. At your age, it's neither safe or necessary.

[NoSheetSherlock]

Here is another problem. If you need a trainer or friends to stay motivated, you haven't made enough of a commitment to even be discussing steroids.

No difference in age? Really? So shutting down the HTPA in your brain which controls your hormone cycles before it finishes developing around 25 isn't going to cause problems? Think again. I've treated plenty of guys your age (and I still get calls) who took steroids and now can't get erections, have little to no sex drive, can't produce enough of their own testosterone, are losing their hair, have estrogen related problems, are depressed, and more. There are plenty of young men your age who are members here for the sole purpose of getting help from steroid cycles that screwed them up - even cycles that were run correctly. You have absolutely no way of knowing if your HTPA will recover once you shut it off with steroids.

As for friends who may have used steroids and were "ok". Really? So if you use steroids and suddenly your dick can't get hard to save your life, are you really going to run around the neighborhood telling everyone your dick is as soft as a 90 year old make and so are your testosterone levels? I hardly think so and neither will your friends. If you think you lack confidence now will a leaner physique than you'd like, how much confidence are you going to have when you're with a girl and she's laughing at your 20-something year old limp dick and probably telling her friends that the hot guy she's dating can't get enough wood to bang a hot girl.

I'm sorry. This isn't what you want to hear. On this board, we encourage SAFE use of steroids. At your age, it's neither safe or necessary.

Well that opened my eyes to some new possibilities so I appreciate it. But im still going to research it further on my own. This sh*t just gets a little overwhelming when different people/articles say different things and you don't know who tf to believe.