Estrogen, Prolactin, Progesterone Management + Gynecomastia Prevention & Reversal

[lovbyts]

I dont think EQ is going to raise your progesterone but the deca most defiantly will. You might try lowering the test or taking the Adex every day. Is your adex from AR-R? There are places that have been know to put out watered down adex, AR-R is not one of them.

[athletic.guy]

I dont think EQ is going to raise your progesterone but the deca most defiantly will. You might try lowering the test or taking the Adex every day. Is your adex from AR-R? There are places that have been know to put out watered down adex, AR-R is not one of them.

My e2 levels are in the normal range, will bringing them down to the lowest side of the normal reduce progesterone that dramatically?

Is having my progesterone of 11 even worth worrying about considering the doseages im using? I've only got 4 weeks left on the deca. Then I continue the EQ, and test for 6 and 8 weeks....

[Slacker78]

My e2 levels are in the normal range, will bringing them down to the lowest side of the normal reduce progesterone that dramatically?

Is having my progesterone of 11 even worth worrying about considering the doseages im using? I've only got 4 weeks left on the deca. Then I continue the EQ, and test for 6 and 8 weeks....

That's one of the things i asked in some previous post. If progestins increase estrogens activity BUT NO THEIR COUNT/NUMBER i suppose that control E2 to handle progestins better means: reduce *more* E2 to do decrease progestins activity. This is just logical deduction, i'm not sure is so.... if someone who is master of the theme would illumine us, that could be a great thing, about common interest.

[Chicagotarsier]

Unless you are an one-off (oddball) case E2 is the gate keeper to hell. Control E2 and you control gyno, bloat, and a million other items. PRG on its own causing issues would be rare (not impossible) but rare. if you take the cases of PRG high only causing issues (confirmed cases) you would not run out of toes to count on. Naturally I have 2x top of range PRG and have 0 issues from it.

E2 going high opens up paths for PRG to cause issues. When I asked my trt doc about my PRG level and concerns he said "when you are 4-5x top of range we can start to think about it".


I am laughing at 330 a week for TrT. That would put a person at 3000-4000 TT. No doctor is going to prescribe that unless his name is Selfad Minister. You are looking at 2-3x top of range E2 from that...even if a doc did prescribe that he would not put you on it from the start. Docs are cautious for a reason...they like their pay check.

That's one of the things i asked in some previous post. If progestins increase estrogens activity BUT NO THEIR COUNT/NUMBER i suppose that control E2 to handle progestins better means: reduce *more* E2 to do decrease progestins activity. This is just logical deduction, i'm not sure is so.... if someone who is master of the theme would illumine us, that could be a great thing, about common interest.

[numbere]

My e2 levels are in the normal range, will bringing them down to the lowest side of the normal reduce progesterone that dramatically?

It's difficult to predict what will happen. Cholesterol is converted into pregnenolone which is then synthesized into progesterone. If your E2 levels are within range, and you feel well, then don't muddle with things.

[kelkel]

I am laughing at 330 a week for TrT. That would put a person at 3000-4000 TT. No doctor is going to prescribe that unless his name is Selfad Minister. You are looking at 2-3x top of range E2 from that...even if a doc did prescribe that he would not put you on it from the start. Docs are cautious for a reason...they like their pay check.

Very true. My dose of 70mg twice per week puts me at 1400 - 1500 TT. And the absolute only reason a doc would prescribe such an excessive dose would be if the person was a documented hyper-excreter.

It's difficult to predict what will happen. Cholesterol is converted into pregnenolone which is then synthesized into progesterone. If your E2 levels are within range, and you feel well, then don't muddle with things.

Well said.

[Chicagotarsier]

<<<<<<<Researching Hyper-excreter.

Very true. My dose of 70mg twice per week puts me at 1400 - 1500 TT. And the absolute only reason a doc would prescribe such an excessive dose would be if the person was a documented hyper-excreter.




Well said.

[Slacker78]

Moral of the story: keeping E2 in a good range should take a good safe profile using progestins ( 19-Nor compounds ). The "good" E2 range to keep a good safe profile with progestins, i think, it's variable for each one.