My First Run on DNP

[thisAngelBites]

The ultimate problems with DNP in my mind above and beyond other things that make me not a fan is primarily 2 fold.
1- Dosage accuracy..how the hell do you know it is accurately dosed at all?
2- The line between therapeutic/ effective dosage & lethal dosage for some is so close I really do not think it can be taken safely.
Also the therapeutic dosage required is so variable from individual to individual.
It just isnt prudent or safe and I dont like it being put out there that it is. Im not just talking shit. Ive have looked into this and read up on it. There are even 2 forms crystal and powder and the potency varies. I would not trust a ugl with my life. Its like taking clen from a ugl or RC company in capsule form. You have to be out of your mind to do so. It can simply be to dangerous. risk/reward = fail

I've read cases in the medical literature of fatalities at blood mean concentrations ranging from 28 mg/L to 144 mg/L.

I have not read extensively on DNP, but I have certainly seen the papers on the cataracts, kidney trouble, cardiac arrest, etc.

I guess I am somewhat risk averse, but taking risks seem pointless to me when there are less risky ways to achieve the same aim.

It's clear not everyone who takes DNP dies, but some clearly have, and to be honest, OP, you don't sound remotely like you know what you're doing. Someone who is careful doesn't just find some guy on the internet and do what he did. And then when you don't even understand aspects of what the other guy did, you just omit them.

You didn't recognise the supplements, so you just ignored that part as well.

I hope you are ultimately ok, but if you are, it will be blind stinking luck, and nothing else. What kind of person reads a couple of people's experiences with a dangerous substance online, even though they don't understand it, they figure they will just dive right in with some back of the envelope maths. I can't imagine undertaking something like this without reading everything I could get my hands on, and knowing it inside and out. I sure as hell wouldn't follow some recipe some anonymous guy called Mitch wrote. Who even knows if he really took any DNP??

To be honest, this reads like the beginning of a Darwin Award.

[Docd187123]

I've read cases in the medical literature of fatalities at blood mean concentrations ranging from 28 mg/L to 144 mg/L.

Here's an excerpt from a review off PubMed

Ingestion is currently the most common route of exposure to the drug leading to death. The lowest published lethal human oral dose of DNP is 4.3 mg/kg [76]; the doses reported in the published acute and suicidal fatalities range from 2.8 g to an estimated 5 g. The highest reported dose taken in acute overdose associated with survival was a woman who took 2.4 g with no complications [70].

[roxus159]

Here's an excerpt from a review off PubMed

holy crap thats insane 2.4 g how did they not die

[Docd187123]

holy crap thats insane 2.4 g how did they not die

Not only did the woman not die but she had no complications it stated. I'm obviously not suggesting that as a dosage for a cycle but it IMO it goes to show that the poison is in the dose not solely the compound.

[thisAngelBites]

Here's an excerpt from a review off PubMed

I didn't go and read the citation for the lowest published lethal human oral dose (maybe I'll I'll get to it later, but I am busy today due to a fox attack of my livestock yesterday), but 4.3 mg/kg means for a woman weighing 120 pounds, there is a possibility that a 234 mg dose could be lethal, when 200 mg seems to be the starting dose as recommended on the internet.

Now of course you are extrapolating from that the OP would then be beneath the minimum published lethal dose by staying under a dose of 537.5 mg. But that makes a number of assumptions that I would not be comfortable with.

Are we sure that the dose/response of the drug is strictly linear?

We have absolutely nothing held constant between the minimum lethal dose person and the OP. There are lots of potential confounders. There is no comparison of food consumed, no consideration of other medications, supplements, exercise, water intake, electrolyte replacement, renal function, no information on any metabolic differences between them. I think relying on the fact that we cannot locate any published reports for amounts less than 4.3 is a very crude metric on which to claim safety of any protocol. It's not nothing, but I would not say it tells us smaller doses are definitely safe.

We don't even know with any certainty about whether the substance he is taking is properly dosed, and whether it has additives that complicate things in any way.

The OP is clearly overweight, and would probably drop 30 pounds by cutting out sugar and grain for a couple of months. That would have little to no (negative) side effects.

And by my crude calculation (I'm not accounting for the 12 hour difference in the two doses on day 4), based on the half life of DNP, the OP has approximately 654 mg of DNP in his system on day 4, which is 5.2 mg/kg.

The dose makes the poison in the particular organism. If it were only dose dependent, there wouldn't be the large range of fatal doses, even when we are comparing mg/kg and mean blood concentration. No one knows why there is this variance, as far as I can tell.

I am sure that there the possibility of a safe protocol for DNP, but I don't see any persuasive reasoning that this is it. This is a cut and paste off some website, and this guy does not know what he is doing.

[Times Roman]

I didn't go and read the citation for the lowest published lethal human oral dose (maybe I'll I'll get to it later, but I am busy today due to a fox attack of my livestock yesterday), but 4.3 mg/kg means for a woman weighing 120 pounds, there is a possibility that a 234 mg dose could be lethal, when 200 mg seems to be the starting dose as recommended on the internet.

Now of course you are extrapolating from that the OP would then be beneath the minimum published lethal dose by staying under a dose of 537.5 mg. But that makes a number of assumptions that I would not be comfortable with.

Are we sure that the dose/response of the drug is strictly linear?

We have absolutely nothing held constant between the minimum lethal dose person and the OP. There are lots of potential confounders. There is no comparison of food consumed, no consideration of other medications, supplements, exercise, water intake, electrolyte replacement, renal function, no information on any metabolic differences between them. I think relying on the fact that we cannot locate any published reports for amounts less than 4.3 is a very crude metric on which to claim safety of any protocol. It's not nothing, but I would not say it tells us smaller doses are definitely safe.

We don't even know with any certainty about whether the substance he is taking is properly dosed, and whether it has additives that complicate things in any way.

The OP is clearly overweight, and would probably drop 30 pounds by cutting out sugar and grain for a couple of months. That would have little to no (negative) side effects.

And by my crude calculation (I'm not accounting for the 12 hour difference in the two doses on day 4), based on the half life of DNP, the OP has approximately 654 mg of DNP in his system on day 4, which is 5.2 mg/kg.

The dose makes the poison in the particular organism. If it were only dose dependent, there wouldn't be the large range of fatal doses, even when we are comparing mg/kg and mean blood concentration. No one knows why there is this variance, as far as I can tell.

I am sure that there the possibility of a safe protocol for DNP, but I don't see any persuasive reasoning that this is it. This is a cut and paste off some website, and this guy does not know what he is doing.

and let's not even begin on the dose curve response in gender. on a pound for pound basis, women end up needing much less of a dose than men.

[roxus159]

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I read about that article as well that concentration of dnp in there blood is extremely high and only a fool would use that much to let it get that bad.
I feel alot of people that got injured or died didn't look into this subject more when they did start using this. Like i said before if people did there research they should of known 14mg for kilo of body weight is a known lethal dose,but some people don't listen to there bodys when the side affects are really bad
and keep pushing through the pain till it becomes to late. I've read quite a few first cycle on dnp threads seems to me that the people that got very sick were taking a huge amount really fast for there first time didn't take the accumulation of dnp in there system into account or how there only a 36 hour
half life to this chemical, and most users i read on there threads they come out ok tend to take precaution and always start at a low dose of 200mg. I also do appropriate your concern for my safety.