Test E/Tren E/EQ Stack - 3rd cycle

[Leakland]

I'm no expert but it seems like you have everything in place. I've been doing a lot of reading up about test/tren stacks lately and everything seems to be on point. You have your ai and pct...I have a feeling ppl are going to bE asking for your stats tho. I'm also curious to see what some of the vets have to say about your cycle. I really don't know why so many ppl say to stay away from tren e but also say it's the best aas ever. How was your last experience with test/tren?

[Bearox]

My last experience with tren/test went very well for me. The only noticeable side I had for the duration of the cycle was night sweats which were bearable.

Im 6'1, 195lbs, lifting for 4 years with my first 2 years being natural.

First cycle test e only (lame)
Second Cycle test e 500mg /tren e 200mg (very happy)

But I have read alot saying test should be run lower then tren so I am giving it a go this time around.

[Leakland]

My last experience with tren/test went very well for me. The only noticeable side I had for the duration of the cycle was night sweats which were bearable.

Im 6'1, 195lbs, lifting for 4 years with my first 2 years being natural.

First cycle test e only (lame)
Second Cycle test e 500mg /tren e 200mg (very happy)

But I have read alot saying test should be run lower then tren so I am giving it a go this time around.

I've read that test should be higher than tren, but I've also read tren should be higher. I guess it's one of those things where everyone is different and you have to give yourself a little bit a trial and error to see what works best for you.

Also why isn't nolva In your pct? Just wondering.

As for numbere I knew there would be a little hating going on. It seems with tren there always is. IMO his guy has come here for help and isn't what these boards are for? Instead of telling him he's too young , too inexperienced and not to do it period (because he's gonna do it anyway) why not help him out?

[numbere]

As for numbere I knew there would be a little hating going on. It seems with tren there always is. IMO his guy has come here for help and isn't what these boards are for? Instead of telling him he's too young , too inexperienced and not to do it period (because he's gonna do it anyway) why not help him out?

I have no beef with tren, it's quite the opposite my friend, I hold it in high regard and have much respect for the product. Tren is 5x as androgenic and 5x as anabolic as test. Tren is harsh on the lipid profile and can have horrible side effects if used incorrectly. You need to understand that almost half the people posing questions on this forum about tren cycles have no business using it. Tren is only for the experienced user.

This forum is about connecting people, and educating them on how to use AAS as safely as possible. Me telling OP that he is too young to use steroids is the best advise that he can be given. He obviously doesn't know how to use these products safely, so there is a good chance he is naive about the risk to his HPTA.

[MuscleInk]

I have no beef with tren, it's quite the opposite my friend, I hold it in high regard and have much respect for the product. Tren is 5x as androgenic and 5x as anabolic as test. Tren is harsh on the lipid profile and can have horrible side effects if used incorrectly. You need to understand that almost half the people posing questions on this forum about tren cycles have no business using it. Tren is only for the experienced user.

This forum is about connecting people, and educating them on how to use AAS as safely as possible. Me telling OP that he is too young to use steroids is the best advise that he can be given. He obviously doesn't know how to use these products safely, so there is a good chance he is naive about the risk to his HPTA.

Agreed, tren is a great product BUT, too many guys are eager to jump on the tren-bandwagon too soon. It is a harsh compound and can do a lot of damage for those not ready for it - and by ready, I mean generally those that have at least 4 or 5 cycles under their belt and have a bf below 15%. Do people above 15% run tren? Sure they do, but that doesn't mean its safe or they don't have problems.

Some members here would suggest that tren should only be used by advanced athletes. I wouldn't go that far, but I would agree that only those very familiar with hormones, what they do, and how anabolics affect the HTPA as well as other systems (especially your cardiovascular system when using strong products such as tren) should even consider tren.

[Leakland]

I have no beef with tren, it's quite the opposite my friend, I hold it in high regard and have much respect for the product. Tren is 5x as androgenic and 5x as anabolic as test. Tren is harsh on the lipid profile and can have horrible side effects if used incorrectly. You need to understand that almost half the people posing questions on this forum about tren cycles have no business using it. Tren is only for the experienced user.

This forum is about connecting people, and educating them on how to use AAS as safely as possible. Me telling OP that he is too young to use steroids is the best advise that he can be given. He obviously doesn't know how to use these products safely, so there is a good chance he is naive about the risk to his HPTA.

I respect that. However if he's going to do it anyway why not just give him the best advice possible other than not to do it. As for me I won't try it until I have more experience..I'm 34 and on my second cycle of just test...however I'm all about researching so when the time comes and I do decide to try it I will have some knowledge.

[numbere]

I respect that. However if he's going to do it anyway why not just give him the best advice possible other than not to do it. As for me I won't try it until I have more experience..I'm 34 and on my second cycle of just test...however I'm all about researching so when the time comes and I do decide to try it I will have some knowledge.

I will not give a young person cycle advise because that would be against my morals and encourage many other young men to use AAS. Leakland you need to understand that at any given time there are roughly 25,000 people viewing these forums. If we begin giving cycle advise to youngsters then this place would be flooded with 20 year old's wanting advise on tren cycles. I have read too many horror stories about cycles gone wrong for the young to contribute to that madness. If you're under 25 there is no such thing as safe AAS use, the risks are far too high.

Ok maybe it was the situation for that person
The thread I am referring to is in the pct forum under Need some advice for PCT (test/tren stack)

I'm familiar with that thread. The advise given was specific to that situation and person.

It's totally fine to have questions and seek answers. However, this thread belongs to someone else, and it's rude to hijack a thread that was started by another person. If you have a question that you would like answered then start another thread, or send a PM once your post count is high enough.

[Leakland]

I will not give a young person cycle advise because that would be against my morals and encourage many other young men to use AAS. Leakland you need to understand that at any given time there are roughly 25,000 people viewing these forums. If we begin giving cycle advise to youngsters then this place would be flooded with 20 year old's wanting advise on tren cycles. I have read too many horror stories about cycles gone wrong for the young to contribute to that madness. If you're under 25 there is no such thing as safe AAS use, the risks are far too high.



I'm familiar with that thread. The advise given was specific to that situation and person.

It's totally fine to have questions and seek answers. However, this thread belongs to someone else, and it's rude to hijack a thread that was started by another person. If you have a question that you would like answered then start another thread, or send a PM once your post count is high enough.

I see your point numbere and completely respect it. I won't go further into my opinions on this debate, and I do apologize"hijacking" the thread that was not my intention. I just wanted to give a point of reference. I know in the future to keep threads separated.

Back to the topic...so even if ai is run correctly hcg is still recommended?

[MuscleInk]

I'm no expert but it seems like you have everything in place. I've been doing a lot of reading up about test/tren stacks lately and everything seems to be on point. You have your ai and pct...I have a feeling ppl are going to bE asking for your stats tho. I'm also curious to see what some of the vets have to say about your cycle. I really don't know why so many ppl say to stay away from tren e but also say it's the best aas ever. How was your last experience with test/tren?

No. it's actually a disaster.

EQ belongs in the garbage.

AI dose and frequency is wrong.

AI should not be used during PCT

No HCG planned.

No DA to control prolactin - will be needed since AI is used incorrectly.

SERMS for PCT are dosed daily NOT weekly.

[Leakland]

No. it's actually a disaster.

EQ belongs in the garbage.

AI dose and frequency is wrong.

AI should not be used during PCT

No HCG planned.

No DA to control prolactin - will be needed since AI is used incorrectly.

SERMS for PCT are dosed daily NOT weekly.

Good stuff..like I said I really don't know much about this...I have no personal experience with tren..am still only on my second cycle myself. I was just going off what I've read during my research.

And I just noticed he says he is running ai ED...I believe it should be .5 EOD?
At least with Adex I've read that .5 EOD is about right.

If he adjusts the ai frequency would he still need to have DA to control prolactin

I've also read comments from numbere in another thread where he tells the op to drop hcg and just run Nolva 40/20/20/20 and clomid 100/50/50/50
And this was for a test/tren cycle too..

So this is where I get confused,..I read so many mixed opinions from different ppl.

[numbere]

I've also read comments from numbere in another thread where he tells the op to drop hcg and just run Nolva 40/20/20/20 and clomid 100/50/50/50
And this was for a test/tren cycle too..

You are misquoting me bro. Every amount of advise that I give is situational and specific to that person. If you are confused and have questions than ask away. My PM is always open.

[Leakland]

You are misquoting me bro. Every amount of advise that I give is situational and specific to that person. If you are confused and have questions than ask away. My PM is always open.

Ok maybe it was the situation for that person
The thread I am referring to is in the pct forum under Need some advice for PCT (test/tren stack)

[MuscleInk]

Good stuff..like I said I really don't know much about this...I have no personal experience with tren..am still only on my second cycle myself. I was just going off what I've read during my research.

And I just noticed he says he is running ai ED...I believe it should be .5 EOD?
At least with Adex I've read that .5 EOD is about right.

If he adjusts the ai frequency would he still need to have DA to control prolactin

I've also read comments from numbere in another thread where he tells the op to drop hcg and just run Nolva 40/20/20/20 and clomid 100/50/50/50
And this was for a test/tren cycle too..

So this is where I get confused,..I read so many mixed opinions from different ppl.

It depends on the choice of AI.

Anastrazol (arimidex): start at 0.25mg EOD from start to PCT
Exemestane (aromasin): start at 12.5mg ED from start to PCT.

HCG is best run during your cycle. It mimics LH albeit through a slightly different MOA. By doing so, it helps maintain proper leydig cell function and minimizes cellular atrophy caused by suppression and negative feedback loops via the HTPA. Running HCG during PCT prevents LH from doing its natural work to recover testosterone production and will often delay restarting your natural production - which is why it is recommended to not run HCG during your PCT when you are trying to restart your natural production of testosterone.