Is Testosterone King?

[Chicagotarsier]

As said....

ESTROGEN is the major negative of taking steroids.

Testosterone converts to estrogen at a very high rate when compared to other compounds.

You can take a lot more of other substances, take less of an estrogen hit, and get a butt-ton more results.

If I read that right you just compared results of stacking 4 different compounds totalling over 1.5grams a week of gear to 400mg of test a week...... what on earth are you talking about?

[austinite]

As said....

ESTROGEN is the major negative of taking steroids.

Testosterone converts to estrogen at a very high rate when compared to other compounds.

You can take a lot more of other substances, take less of an estrogen hit, and get a butt-ton more results.

Yeah I still don't get it. You think nearly a gram of NPP won't impact your e2 levels at all? If anything, that cycle comparison is a recipe for gynecomastia.

Really strange, Chicago. I like a lot of your posts, but this one threw me for a loop.

[Chicagotarsier]

On 200 test vs 700 NPP 400 tren and 200 test and 100 anavar my E2 was 5% higher. Tren does not convert. Deca at 10-20% of test conversion. Anavar seems to have none if any conversion.

So a basic conversion would be

You can take 1000 NPP or 200 Test and get the same E2 hit.

This was the core of Golden Age lifter usage of substances. Why Primo (a weaker substance) was used by so many at such high doses at that time...little to no conversion.

I realize my thoughts are against current mantra.

[lovbyts]

On 200 test vs 700 NPP 400 tren and 200 test and 100 anavar my E2 was 5% higher. Tren does not convert. Deca at 10-20% of test conversion. Anavar seems to have none if any conversion.

So a basic conversion would be

You can take 1000 NPP or 200 Test and get the same E2 hit.

This was the core of Golden Age lifter usage of substances. Why Primo (a weaker substance) was used by so many at such high doses at that time...little to no conversion.

I realize my thoughts are against current mantra.

That may be true for you and I hope you are checking blood work but it's FAR from the case for me. Even on TRT my E2 runs high. On cycle 2x mine Sensitive Estradiol was 379 range 3-70 and free test was only 53 range 7.2-24.
Another time my Sensitive Estradiol was 295 and Free test was 34.

Obviously not everyone is the same and the only way to know is by testing blood work. I had no physical sides that I noticed.

Remember most RX have more than one treatment and most all effect more than one symptom or side effect. Cialis was created to treat blood pressure but had a more marketable side effect.