Hey Vets, this thread is for you

[sixfootseven]

Point one and two above from Marcus.

I've been guilty of running long cycles, less time off, and stacking more compounds than necessary - and lately, I've paid a small price for it.


For many of us, proper nutrition, training, combined with one or two safely run cycles with one or two compounds PER YEAR should easily suffice to achieve the goals we seek.

The mistake is that we think we need it all, NOW, but with that attitude, comes a potentially hefty price.

As I mentioned in my other reply, too many guys assume that if there are no visual indicators of poor health, your health must be fine. Go ask a patient who has stroked out how good they thought their health was before the ischemic event. Just about every patient I have ever triaged in the ER or treated in clinic that was hospitalized for a TIA has said, "but I felt perfectly fine". That's my point. Just because you don't see a problem developing, doesn't mean there isn't one. So many young guys worry about gyno. They don't want man boobs - it's a vanity concern. There are many more problems that can occur - polycythemia for example (go ask Marcus how much fun that was) that should be of far greater concern than a pair of tits.

I'm sure many of the vets get frustrated trying to talk new guys off the ledge from using aggressive cycles, staying on too long, or not taking adequate breaks between cycles. What these new members fail to consider is that very likely they are advising you because THEY made the same mistakes you are about to make and are genuinely trying to help you avoid making them.

Very good information from the vets here, but these posts highlight some things I've been thinking a lot about.

As a collegiate track and field thrower, I have teammates who stay on all season long; running compound after compound to try and get as powerful as possible. They are extremely powerful, but they are destroying their bodies. These guys are only 21-24 years old as well. They don't run HCG either. I have tried to educate them, but bc they are bigger and more powerful than me they think they know more about AAS than I do.

I just tried to caution one of them today, he has been on since probably last fall. right now he is running orals only w no hcg and Idk about an AI. Anyway, all I am saying is that I realize the attractiveness of steroids and the desire to constantly be on like MI talked about.

Really all I want to do is run one cycle a year-maybe 2 if i can get enough time in between but If i run a 12 week cycle then its gonna be a 6 month chunk of time including time on and off. 3 or even 2 compounds is enough when you have a clear goal like I do. Also, i know that you cannot rush these things and I am willing to dedicate years to building a great physique in as safe a way as possible.

appreciate all the information in this thread and others from you veterans

[MuscleInk]

Very good information from the vets here, but these posts highlight some things I've been thinking a lot about.

As a collegiate track and field thrower, I have teammates who stay on all season long; running compound after compound to try and get as powerful as possible. They are extremely powerful, but they are destroying their bodies. These guys are only 21-24 years old as well. They don't run HCG either. I have tried to educate them, but bc they are bigger and more powerful than me they think they know more about AAS than I do.

I just tried to caution one of them today, he has been on since probably last fall. right now he is running orals only w no hcg and Idk about an AI. Anyway, all I am saying is that I realize the attractiveness of steroids and the desire to constantly be on like MI talked about.

Really all I want to do is run one cycle a year-maybe 2 if i can get enough time in between but If i run a 12 week cycle then its gonna be a 6 month chunk of time including time on and off. 3 or even 2 compounds is enough when you have a clear goal like I do. Also, i know that you cannot rush these things and I am willing to dedicate years to building a great physique in as safe a way as possible.

appreciate all the information in this thread and others from you veterans

Good head on your shoulders mate and you WILL come out farther ahead than your buddies. They just don't know it yet, but life is going to humble them. It almost always does.

1-2 cycles per year is reasonable and you'll likely get more out of your cycles than they will by allowing recovery and letting your body make the most out of each cycle after it has "reset" itself and is ready for the next challenge.

Keep thinking with your head and not your biceps and you'll lap those guys in strength and size.

[sixfootseven]

Good head on your shoulders mate and you WILL come out farther ahead than your buddies. They just don't know it yet, but life is going to humble them. It almost always does.

1-2 cycles per year is reasonable and you'll likely get more out of your cycles than they will by allowing recovery and letting your body make the most out of each cycle after it has "reset" itself and is ready for the next challenge.

Keep thinking with your head and not your biceps and you'll lap those guys in strength and size.

Thanks boss, just wish i could talk some sense into the guys bc god knows what they are doing to their bodies.

If anyone wouldnt mind checking out my other thread i would really appreciate it. For whatever reason its not getting much activity, thnx.

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...ly-spring.html