Quote Originally Posted by xjay1234 View Post

OI! I am sitting at a side angle with my leg at one side, so don't think I have fooking LOVE HANDLES OKAY!!!!!!! LOL

But yeah no more than 15% for sure.

But serious stuff now.

Winstrol I only said that as people do use it to have that FINISHED look, my base right now I have a lean look, but of course Testosterone alone would be good enough providing the training it effective and the diet is spot on.

I will be honest right now my diet is not good, so I will need to get in the habit now till then of eating solid.

Oh I know how 20lbs is @ the gym the 10kg plate weight it is a solid amount to gain. I have read on other forums of men taking all Anadrol cycles and gaining 30lbs solid.

Now back to what I said about the Testosterone E @ 500mg for 12 weeks.

Because I said originally that Dianabol I am against it just because orals I feel something is odd about taking a tablet that can drastically give you weight gains in such short time because I feel as it that could then go easily where as something that gives you small gains over a long period of time I feel that can be kept (yes diet and PCT we know this).

But maybe as time gets closer to then I might just want to take Dianabol with Testosterone E for the first 6 weeks.

If that is the case I would rather take injectable Dianabol.

With all this, I shall be taking regular trips to the doctor for check ups.

As for my AI you asked for after my final injection of Testosterone E I would wait 2 full weeks then take Nolvadex to bring my natural testosterone levels back to normal for 3 weeks so:

FINAL INJECTION OF TESTOSTERONE E

2 week break

then 40mg Nolvadex a day. for 2 weeks then 20mg Nolvadex for 1 week the final week.

And that would be my first and last Anabolic Steroid cycle.

Of course DURING the cycle I would take arimidex every other day to keep estrogenic side effects like gyno and water retention away. The dose? not sure at present I will research more into that.

But back to Dianabal as I said if I feel closer to that time that I will use Dianabol to jump start then I will try to get LIQUID injectable...
So did those guys who claimed to have 30lbs of LBM have a DEA scan or a body pod assessment to provide actual body morphology or were they too busy gloating about their fictitious results to the ignorant masses who'd believe just about anything they are told.

I've seen enough total body composition scans in 18 years of medicine to know what 30lbs of mass is composed of so please stop pretending I'm as ignorant as your gym buddies.

You've already admitted your diet needs work. You don't get committed later. You get committed now. Knowing when, what, and how to eat are far more important than figuring out what pills to pop or juice to shoot, but like many before and many more after you, it's a secondary concern when it should be your primary concern.

I don't recall saying you had fooking love handles. Maybe you do, maybe you dont. To be honest I could care less about your love handles. What I said was, BMI is a useless index and your body fat is likely a bit above 14%.

You don't need a kick start. You don't need winni. If you think you need steroids, keep the cycle basic with a single testosterone ester AND a proper diet and see how that goes.

You don't have to follow any of our recommendations. You're free to do whatever your heart desires. We didn't go looking for you, you came to us asking for advice. There are dozens of new guys in here every day. We aren't obligated to help. We aren't paid to help. We VOLUNTEER our help AND experience because many of us are committed to this lifestyle. We have careers, school, families, and numerous other responsibilities. Be thankful we are willing to find time to provide help. This forum exists to educate and help people like you but people who are argumentative, condescending, or beligerant will quickly find we owe them nothing and certainly not our time, genorosity, or experience.