Are you on the side of Israel or the side of Palestine Hamas?

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based on your numbers, that's 75 people per square mile. And they were nomadic. Which means, again, if memory serves, they moved around, also meaning, they didn't settle any particular area, but were more transient.

I was more referring to populations and population densities. 75 people per square mile is pretty thin for an entire region.

The British didn't steal the land and give it to the Jews. It was a negotiated settlement. The Palestinians feel it was a land steal; the very essence of the dispute.

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based on your numbers, that's 75 people per square mile. And they were nomadic. Which means, again, if memory serves, they moved around, also meaning, they didn't settle any particular area, but were more transient.

I was more referring to populations and population densities. 75 people per square mile is pretty thin for an entire region.

The British didn't steal the land and give it to the Jews. It was a negotiated settlement. The Palestinians feel it was a land steal; the very essence of the dispute.

TR, that land was Jordan. There isn't a book in history that would or can deny this. It's too recent to turn a blind eye. This density issue is not relevant. If that's the case, the Bedouins in Saudi would be fractions of a human per square mile they occupy. They move around, but they've never moved beyond their land. Once the port opened to Egypt, some traveled south, but the bulk of the moves happened after 1947 where many moved back to Jordan, up to Lebanon and a few scurried to Syria. Prior to this, they had been a solid and incredibly peaceful nation. In fact, they are the sole reason why the ruins in Jericho/Jordan still exist. They are also the same folks who built ARAMCO with us, Americans. There was little to no Saudi nationals in Dhahran during ARAMCO days. It was all Jordanians and Palestinians. They helped bring Petra back to life in Aqaba Jordan and it's now one of the biggest tourist attractions in the world, the take off point for the international hot air balloon races and a dominant gateway to the red sea which they also built. They're reaping zero benefits from any of this today and have asked for nothing.

Bunch of harmless hippies back then. They've changed. These violent streams and tendencies don't happen overnight. You're either ruled by a violent dictator, or you're pressured over years of suppression. It's sad, and the UN should be ashamed.

Anyway. To get back on topic, Hamas' actions are just as terrible as the Israeli's. That's an organization that should have never existed. But the real topic is who belongs there, and Israel does not. Not even remotely close. If you knew how much of my and your tax dollars go to support them, everyone may have a different opinion. That's an "Allie" we can do without. I can put money to better use right here in the US.

It's no surprise that ANY TIME there is some sort of major issues in the middle east, the Israeli's are to blame by the regions surrounding them. They aren't wanted there and they are right in the middle of origin-dominant nations with similar cultures and traditions. Israel would seize to exist in 90 days should we stop supporting them.

For the sake of whatever, our own troops at times don't get the backup they do.

Crap. It's late. Bed time for Bonzo.

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TR, that land was Jordan. There isn't a book in history that would or can deny this. It's too recent to turn a blind eye. This density issue is not relevant. If that's the case, the Bedouins in Saudi would be fractions of a human per square mile they occupy. They move around, but they've never moved beyond their land. Once the port opened to Egypt, some traveled south, but the bulk of the moves happened after 1947 where many moved back to Jordan, up to Lebanon and a few scurried to Syria. Prior to this, they had been a solid and incredibly peaceful nation. In fact, they are the sole reason why the ruins in Jericho/Jordan still exist. They are also the same folks who built ARAMCO with us, Americans. There was little to no Saudi nationals in Dhahran during ARAMCO days. It was all Jordanians and Palestinians. They helped bring Petra back to life in Aqaba Jordan and it's now one of the biggest tourist attractions in the world, the take off point for the international hot air balloon races and a dominant gateway to the red sea which they also built. They're reaping zero benefits from any of this today and have asked for nothing.

Bunch of harmless hippies back then. They've changed. These violent streams and tendencies don't happen overnight. You're either ruled by a violent dictator, or you're pressured over years of suppression. It's sad, and the UN should be ashamed.

Anyway. To get back on topic, Hamas' actions are just as terrible as the Israeli's. That's an organization that should have never existed. But the real topic is who belongs there, and Israel does not. Not even remotely close. If you knew how much of my and your tax dollars go to support them, everyone may have a different opinion. That's an "Allie" we can do without. I can put money to better use right here in the US.

It's no surprise that ANY TIME there is some sort of major issues in the middle east, the Israeli's are to blame by the regions surrounding them. They aren't wanted there and they are right in the middle of origin-dominant nations with similar cultures and traditions. Israel would seize to exist in 90 days should we stop supporting them.

For the sake of whatever, our own troops at times don't get the backup they do.

Crap. It's late. Bed time for Bonzo.

Informative Post.


I learned a few months ago Israel gets a ton of financial support from Evangelical Christians and the reasoning is crazy.

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