Delaying Post-Workout Shake to shed fat

[Machdiesel]

^ I would disagree timing is irrelevant. Lots of good New studies out. Since I've started carb backloading and doing late day workouts I've noticed dramatic differences, both in workouts and body composition

[austinite]

^ I would disagree timing is irrelevant. Lots of good New studies out. Since I've started carb backloading and doing late day workouts I've noticed dramatic differences, both in workouts and body composition

I understand. Many will disagree.

You can eat 2000 calories with a high sense of timing, and burn X amount of calories.

You can also eat 2000 calories with no sense of timing, and burn X amount of calories.

A calorie burned is a calorie burned. Same goes for intake. Both scenarios will yield the same 'end of day' result. The only relevance to timing is with respect to your energy levels, where your training and/or endurance may suffer; which would then yield lessor results. I have yet to see a study impactful enough to change my mind.

[tice1212]

I understand. Many will disagree.

You can eat 2000 calories with a high sense of timing, and burn X amount of calories.

You can also eat 2000 calories with no sense of timing, and burn X amount of calories.

A calorie burned is a calorie burned. Same goes for intake. Both scenarios will yield the same 'end of day' result. The only relevance to timing is with respect to your energy levels, where your training and/or endurance may suffer; which would then yield lessor results. I have yet to see a study impactful enough to change my mind.

so ur saying if my macro's are 3000cal and I want to cut up and I drop my calories down to 2500. if I wake up and don't eat anything all day and 8pm rolls around and I eat 2500 calories in one sitting I will be still cutting weight?

[Docd187123]

so ur saying if my macro's are 3000cal and I want to cut up and I drop my calories down to 2500. if I wake up and don't eat anything all day and 8pm rolls around and I eat 2500 calories in one sitting I will be still cutting weight?

Correct. Law of thermodynamics.

[Machdiesel]

I understand. Many will disagree.

You can eat 2000 calories with a high sense of timing, and burn X amount of calories.

You can also eat 2000 calories with no sense of timing, and burn X amount of calories.

A calorie burned is a calorie burned. Same goes for intake. Both scenarios will yield the same 'end of day' result. The only relevance to timing is with respect to your energy levels, where your training and/or endurance may suffer; which would then yield lessor results. I have yet to see a study impactful enough to change my mind.

So according to you keeping calories constant, a person who decides to inject 500mg of testosterone, and take 40mg of dbol won't gain Weignt . This is an extreme case or changing your bodies physiology/hormones that alter what they do with those calories. Same goes for timing to a lesser extent. People see calories out as this finite number that is just energy burned. Your body is more complex then that. Now we may be talking about very small differencs, but I think timing can A. Enhance performance and B. Allow for optimal nutrient portioning and show A better end result in terms of body composition

[Machdiesel]

I understand. Many will disagree.

You can eat 2000 calories with a high sense of timing, and burn X amount of calories.

You can also eat 2000 calories with no sense of timing, and burn X amount of calories.

A calorie burned is a calorie burned. Same goes for intake. Both scenarios will yield the same 'end of day' result. The only relevance to timing is with respect to your energy levels, where your training and/or endurance may suffer; which would then yield lessor results. I have yet to see a study impactful enough to change my mind.

Here's a real world example. I used to have high blood sugar, fasted 120 and a1c 6.0. Since then I've switched to a back loading approach. Post Workout I consume 50g of whey and 50g of pure dextrose. If I take my blood sugar every 30 minutes it never goes over 110, yet if I went into labcorp at 9am and took a glucose tolerance test which I believe is 75g of carbs I'd fail. I now have normal blood sugar levels

[Docd187123]

^ I would disagree timing is irrelevant. Lots of good New studies out. Since I've started carb backloading and doing late day workouts I've noticed dramatic differences, both in workouts and body composition

Timing is irrelevant bc it's solely up to the individual in question. I can train fasted or completely full, take a PWO shake right after or wait a few hours to eat, I can eat once a day or 8x a day and nothing makes much of a difference. Some cannot train fasted while others can. Some cannot train on a full stomach where others must. Hence the irrelevant statement.

[Machdiesel]

Timing is irrelevant bc it's solely up to the individual in question. I can train fasted or completely full, take a PWO shake right after or wait a few hours to eat, I can eat once a day or 8x a day and nothing makes much of a difference. Some cannot train fasted while others can. Some cannot train on a full stomach where others must. Hence the irrelevant statement.

So your saying its EXTRMELY Relevent, just different for every individual

[Docd187123]

So your saying its EXTRMELY Relevent, just different for every individual

Not exactly bc even then the differences are so minor it's not worth fretting over.