Yeah except you are not talking about anything pertaining to my actual question. My point is forum guys get on here and parrot mods or people like yourself saying these things. Now I am NOT saying that what you said isn't true. I understand you have experience using them longer then me and maybe you did use them them to young and do real damage,but that isn't going to be the case for everyone. Once again I am not denying it happens. I really don't want to even say this because its impossible for me to explain it without sounding like an asshole. Please believe I don't mean it in a negative way to everyone but honestly "Old forum guys who've got more experience then you do living harded lives lived more then them youngin's knows better has done it" To me come across as bitter that they waited till whatever arbitrary age to use. Now they see young kids making better gains and looking better than it took them decades of "real man work till hitting the ripe age of 30 when natural T is gone".
Don't mean it in a bad way again just seems like a lot of copypasta and only other forum guys agreeing with you.
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