Fats

[Khazima]

fats are a trick subject. in and of themselves, nothing to avoid. but the problem is you are limiting your caloric intake, and pushing hard to get your protein intake where it needs to be. So since fats are so calorically dense, you need to limit your fat intake to keep calories in line. If you do not, keeping protein the same, you offset is carbs, which by limiting those, can significantly impact gym performance. Keep in mind, we as a community, demand a lot from our bodies. So we say to limit fat intake to 20%. It's a good round number, and works well on average.

Which brings up another problem. There is so much fat in what we eat. Eggs is a significant source of fat. So is red meat. And by eating normal things with fat content, at levels high enough to satisfy your protein requirement, chances are, you are blowing the doors off that 20 percent fat target. Which means you have to be careful with the type of protein you eat. Which is why I focus so heavily on liquid egg whites and skinless chicken breast.

The other thing I do is not worry so much about any one particular day. Instead, I look to my ten day average. If your ten day average is on target, then not to worry about some minor daily fluctuations.

Be patient. You'll get there....

---Roman

Great advice, also why is your protein so high? You only really need 1g per lb of LBM, it's easier to just go with 1g per Pound of bodyweight but if you're struggling with calories, stop worrying so much about protein. I'm currently on 180 protein 380 carbs and 80 fat, at 160lb, if I get less than 180 I don't worry, I don't worry if it gets as low as 120-130 while I'm bulking.

[teacherman]

Great advice, also why is your protein so high? You only really need 1g per lb of LBM, it's easier to just go with 1g per Pound of bodyweight but if you're struggling with calories, stop worrying so much about protein. I'm currently on 180 protein 380 carbs and 80 fat, at 160lb, if I get less than 180 I don't worry, I don't worry if it gets as low as 120-130 while I'm bulking.

Hey guys thanks heaps for that. Protein is just at 40:40 ratio with carbs I have considered dropping it slightly and going for a higher amount of carbs as I am working obviously on progressive overload and a mix of strength and hypertrophy days.

TR- when you're going over a ten day cycle are you just calculating what the macros should be as a total of ten days or more lookin at an average over ten days

[Times Roman]

Great advice, also why is your protein so high? You only really need 1g per lb of LBM, it's easier to just go with 1g per Pound of bodyweight but if you're struggling with calories, stop worrying so much about protein. I'm currently on 180 protein 380 carbs and 80 fat, at 160lb, if I get less than 180 I don't worry, I don't worry if it gets as low as 120-130 while I'm bulking.

Don't rely on what most nutritionists tell you. They are proclaiming this for the population at large, which for them, is adequate. But weightlifters degrade muscle fiber/tissue by virtue of their lifestyle, and need additional protein to offset this degradation, PLUS the amount they need to grow more tissue fiber mass. I generally advise 1.5gr/protein per one lb of lbm at a minimum. Don't worry about kidney damage. Most weight lifters are HEALTHY with no kidney problems. If excess protein intake were such an issue for our community, you would see threads all the time that worry about what kidney support they need to sustain their protein intake. I can't ever remember seeing such a thread, and if you look at my thread count, I've looked a lot. Don't always believe what the nutritionists tell you. Remember, it is they that were telling us low fat diets were good for you.....

Hey guys thanks heaps for that. Protein is just at 40:40 ratio with carbs I have considered dropping it slightly and going for a higher amount of carbs as I am working obviously on progressive overload and a mix of strength and hypertrophy days.

TR- when you're going over a ten day cycle are you just calculating what the macros should be as a total of ten days or more lookin at an average over ten days

I track macros per day, and then I also total that up and track macros per ten days. So I do both. If you like, I have a macro calculator that may make it easier for you to do this. Pm me if you have an interest

[Docd187123]

Don't rely on what most nutritionists tell you. They are proclaiming this for the population at large, which for them, is adequate. But weightlifters degrade muscle fiber/tissue by virtue of their lifestyle, and need additional protein to offset this degradation, PLUS the amount they need to grow more tissue fiber mass. I generally advise 1.5gr/protein per one lb of lbm at a minimum. Don't worry about kidney damage. Most weight lifters are HEALTHY with no kidney problems. If excess protein intake were such an issue for our community, you would see threads all the time that worry about what kidney support they need to sustain their protein intake. I can't ever remember seeing such a thread, and if you look at my thread count, I've looked a lot. Don't always believe what the nutritionists tell you. Remember, it is they that were telling us low fat diets were good for you.....




I track macros per day, and then I also total that up and track macros per ten days. So I do both. If you like, I have a macro calculator that may make it easier for you to do this. Pm me if you have an interest

The 1gram/lb lbm figure already takes this consideration of degradation due to lifestyle into account. No one here mentioned kidney health but 1.5g/lb lbm is still an excessive amount that's not needed even by body builders. Especially if you consider bulking since protein requirements go down while bulking.

[teacherman]

The 1gram/lb lbm figure already takes this consideration of degradation due to lifestyle into account. No one here mentioned kidney health but 1.5g/lb lbm is still an excessive amount that's not needed even by body builders. Especially if you consider bulking since protein requirements go down while bulking.

Can you elaborate on that last sentence?

[Khazima]

Can you elaborate on that last sentence?

Your body utilises more of the protein as energy when you're in a deficit. So it uses less when your bulking and uses the carbs/fat over the protein, leaving the excess protein for da musoooools. Sorry if I made that more confusing then it needs to be lol

[tarmyg]

Your body utilises more of the protein as energy when you're in a deficit.

This do not sound correct to me. Why would the body, selectively, use more protein just because you are eating at a deficit!

[teacherman]

Great advice, also why is your protein so high? You only really need 1g per lb of LBM, it's easier to just go with 1g per Pound of bodyweight but if you're struggling with calories, stop worrying so much about protein. I'm currently on 180 protein 380 carbs and 80 fat, at 160lb, if I get less than 180 I don't worry, I don't worry if it gets as low as 120-130 while I'm bulking.

Hey guys thanks heaps for that. Protein is just at 40:40 ratio with carbs I have considered dropping it slightly and going for a higher amount of carbs as I am working obviously on progressive overload and a mix of strength and hypertrophy days.

TR- when you're going over a ten day cycle are you just calculating what the macros should be as a total of ten days or more lookin at an average over ten days