Clen cycle - help please

[workinprogress21]

Yes that's one way to look at it, by eating at maintenance you'll slowly gain muscle and slowly lose fat.

That's the thing lol. I've still got a gut and thick legs, but my arms are pretty lean. I'm contemplating a cut or a bulk, and I know I'll lose motivation if I see extremely slow results by eating at maintenance.

[Khazima]

That's the thing lol. I've still got a gut and thick legs, but my arms are pretty lean. I'm contemplating a cut or a bulk, and I know I'll lose motivation if I see extremely slow results by eating at maintenance.

Just cut slowly then. Find your actual TDEE, count your macros and eat under it. Give http://forums.steroid.com/supplement...-products.html a go

[davidtheman100]

That's the thing lol. I've still got a gut and thick legs, but my arms are pretty lean. I'm contemplating a cut or a bulk, and I know I'll lose motivation if I see extremely slow results by eating at maintenance.

If you bulk, you're going to probably look like shit, but be stronger at your BF%, because eating above maintenance, you're naturally going to be gaining some fat along the muscle. If you're bulking at 20% bodyfat, don't expect to have six pack
abs and good muscle definition. It depends on what your goals are. If you only wanna be strong, or wanna be strong and look good, or just look good?


If you cut, don't be depressed when your strength goes down, and you start to lose weight
with some stubborn belly fat that you'll be angry you can't lose. You have to let your body transform over time. There is NO IMMEDIATE effects that can be made without negative repercussion.

It took your body a certain amount of time to look this way, it's going to take a good amount of time to change it.