Thanks Beethoven - can't PM yet though. The insurance is Coventry. He has me on 100 eow so I guess I'm going to just do 50 ew, but I still have to find someone new as he will "never" prescribe hcg or adex. I guess worse case is go to one of the big anti-aging clinics here and pay for the visit out of pocket, but still use my insurance for labs and pharmacy. Not sure what that would cost or if they even work that way, but still on the table.