BW after pct

[Back In Black]

Reading between the lines you want to go on Dr prescribed TRT. Either way it's a foolish plan.

[lovbyts]

Reading between the lines you want to go on Dr prescribed TRT. Either way it's a foolish plan.

Oh dont be so cynical. Ive never heard of a 24yr old wanting to go on TRT....

To bad he/they cant just switch with someone who is on TRT and has no choice. I think you would get about a 98% of people who are on TRT who would rather not be.

[tectime]

. I think you would get about a 98% of people who are on TRT who would rather not be.

Boy not me! For the benefits of hrt I love that little inconvenience of sticking a needle in me every 3.5 days! For real once you get it all gelled out dude I look forward to it! Would I recommend it ?
You bet! If you really need it or are mature enough to deal with it ( I didn't say old enough) mature enough and can handle all that comes with it dude I'm all about enhancing what the good Lord gave us. Be all you can be and then some.

Now for all you young men that continue to post how you are ready to jump on that train...... Hold up I'm not by any means condoning steroid use at really any age before you are like 35 or 40. Not kidding not bring smart ass just really being honest any time before that age and you are risking ****ing up some good years of your life where you really don't need steroids to reach the levels you're after. Wait till your body and mind are mature enough to reap the maximum benefits steroids have to offer. I don't believe in scare tactics to teach or discipline I believe in being honest about the risks and the rewards. The rewards are easy to see and tempting. The risks can be minimal to down right life changing dangerous. Good real honest answers is the best anyone here can do for anyone on here. Unless your their personal trainer, their in real life friend, know them on a personal level, have real life experiences with them, not just a computer pooter on an open forum, you/we really can't /shouldn't even give advise to them/anyone. These forums are very good places to learn what to research (this one very much so) to learn what to research I said not to learn what to do. Expand your minds not you post count. Hahaha! I love this shit ! Philosophy and physiology in the same swipe ! Gotta love it ! Oh and not directed at anyone Just used loveydoveys quote to open that up. Just got back in from BBB rally in ark. and still relaxing from sitting in the saddle on my road king for 7 hrs. Hahaha! Gotta love that too ! Oh and how I do! Aright enough got to get to the gym and ripp that ****ing place to the ground ! Aaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrr ! Oh another side effect ! Hahaha!

[lovbyts]

Boy not me! For the benefits of hrt I love that little inconvenience of sticking a needle in me every 3.5 days! For real once you get it all gelled out dude I look forward to it! Would I recommend it ?
You bet! If you really need it or are mature enough to deal with it ( I didn't say old enough) mature enough and can handle all that comes with it dude I'm all about enhancing what the good Lord gave us. Be all you can be and then some.

Now for all you young men that continue to post how you are ready to jump on that train...... Hold up I'm not by any means condoning steroid use at really any age before you are like 35 or 40. Not kidding not bring smart ass just really being honest any time before that age and you are risking ****ing up some good years of your life where you really don't need steroids to reach the levels you're after. Wait till your body and mind are mature enough to reap the maximum benefits steroids have to offer. I don't believe in scare tactics to teach or discipline I believe in being honest about the risks and the rewards. The rewards are easy to see and tempting. The risks can be minimal to down right life changing dangerous. Good real honest answers is the best anyone here can do for anyone on here. Unless your their personal trainer, their in real life friend, know them on a personal level, have real life experiences with them, not just a computer pooter on an open forum, you/we really can't /shouldn't even give advise to them/anyone. These forums are very good places to learn what to research (this one very much so) to learn what to research I said not to learn what to do. Expand your minds not you post count. Hahaha! I love this shit ! Philosophy and physiology in the same swipe ! Gotta love it ! Oh and not directed at anyone Just used loveydoveys quote to open that up. Just got back in from BBB rally in ark. and still relaxing from sitting in the saddle on my road king for 7 hrs. Hahaha! Gotta love that too ! Oh and how I do! Aright enough got to get to the gym and ripp that ****ing place to the ground ! Aaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrr ! Oh another side effect ! Hahaha!

But that was my point. What if you could have a normal natural test level of say around 500+ Would you want to be on TRT?

I agree, it's a God send for those of us who NEED it but I think it would be a curse for those who dont actually need it and decide to go on it.

[Dougiefresh7707]

Reading between the lines you want to go on Dr prescribed TRT. Either way it's a foolish plan.

No just want to stock up on some pharma grade test and make my insurance pay don't plan on using it for TRT

[Back In Black]

No just want to stock up on some pharma grade test and make my insurance pay don't plan on using it for TRT

So you think your doc will prescribe it for you after one blood test? And 3 weeks into pct you think that will work? And then what on your follow up appointments?

Just FVCKING source pharma grade yourself it's really not that hard to find.

[GGot FFina?]

No just want to stock up on some pharma grade test and make my insurance pay don't plan on using it for TRT

LMAO. This is exactly what i did, except my insurance only wanted to cover the Test Gel. So i had to pay out of pocket. Another problem is that the jars are only 5cc's each and a little pricey.

It really wasn't that hard to convince my doc either. I knew my test would be low at the time of blood work because i had just come off cycle.
I told my doctor that in my younger years i had taken a thing or two and that i think it is now effecting my test levels.

I also told him that i have no energy, i cant get hard, and my relationship with my fiance is suffering a lot. He gave me blood work, and my test levels at the time where like 50. Bingo, this gave me my script which i still posses.
Funny thing is that after doing my PCT and and then testing my test levels again 5 months later, I was 720 without taking any of the test i was picking up. This made the doctor think that the dose i was supposedly taking was working great, and i still continued to pick them up monthly and stack up my stash!!

[2iron]

LMAO. This is exactly what i did, except my insurance only wanted to cover the Test Gel. So i had to pay out of pocket. Another problem is that the jars are only 5cc's each and a little pricey.

It really wasn't that hard to convince my doc either. I knew my test would be low at the time of blood work because i had just come off cycle.
I told my doctor that in my younger years i had taken a thing or two and that i think it is now effecting my test levels.

I also told him that i have no energy, i cant get hard, and my relationship with my fiance is suffering a lot. He gave me blood work, and my test levels at the time where like 50. Bingo, this gave me my script which i still posses.
Funny thing is that after doing my PCT and and then testing my test levels again 5 months later, I was 720 without taking any of the test i was picking up. This made the doctor think that the dose i was supposedly taking was working great, and i still continued to pick them up monthly and stack up my stash!!

This entire statement wreaks os bullsh!t.

[GGot FFina?]

This entire statement wreaks os bullsh!t.

Buddy, Im not one to talk out of my ass. Please explain to me what part of this you dont understand and ill try to explain it to you a little slower....

[2iron]

Buddy, Im not one to talk out of my ass. Please explain to me what part of this you do understand and ill try to explain it to you a little slower....

I guess I have to write it twice "entire statement" your test level was 50. How were you even
Awake for your appointment? Wasnt he concerned of what might actually be causing the low t? Pituitary testicular? Hell why dont you just convince your dr to give some fentanyl suckers, norcos, and oxy. You have a headache

[GGot FFina?]

I guess I have to write it twice "entire statement" your test level was 50. How were you even
Awake for your appointment? Wasnt he concerned of what might actually be causing the low t? Pituitary testicular? Hell why dont you just convince your dr to give some fentanyl suckers, norcos, and oxy. You have a headache

Hey im not arguing if my doctor is the best doctor in the country. All i am explaining to you is what i went through to get my Test script. If you think everybody in this country had to run through the loops and pay what you had to pay to get inj Test, then you live in a bubble, or rarely leave the house.

Again, if i really had low T, i would have gone to a specialist but since i dont, i stuck my hand out and grabbed the nice test script that took you 2 years to get and 1500 dollars. Dude dont be mad, plz...

BTW, where do you live? Alabama, Oklahoma, Texas?? I could imagine there are tiny towns in the US where it would be a bitch to get Test. Kind of what you had to go through...

[2iron]

No just want to stock up on some pharma grade test and make my insurance pay don't plan on using it for TRT

Just sone insight on process of going to your gp for trt. I have kaiser. So first go to my dr. Bw 1. Oh your test is low. Here is referral to see endo. She does bw. Sensitive. Oh your test is low. Now do more bw to test the funtioning of you pituitary. Need to see where your low t is coming from. Oh your pituitary isnt working. Now final step need to do mri on pituitary to make sure you dont have a tumor causing the problem. End result with my plan cost me about $ 1500.

[GGot FFina?]

Just sone insight on process of going to your gp for trt. I have kaiser. So first go to my dr. Bw 1. Oh your test is low. Here is referral to see endo. She does bw. Sensitive. Oh your test is low. Now do more bw to test the funtioning of you pituitary. Need to see where your low t is coming from. Oh your pituitary isnt working. Now final step need to do mri on pituitary to make sure you dont have a tumor causing the problem. End result with my plan cost me about $ 1500.

This is crazy and really sucks for you. I went to my primary care, seen the PA there. I know him pretty well since i see him once a month for my other scripts. He took my blood work, rite there at his office.
I came back about 1 week later for results and he said my total and free were extremely low. He gave me script for Gel. I told him Gel is no good for me because it gave me a rash about a year prior when i first tried it. So he gave me a script for Test E and told me how much to take.

Before you call bullsh*t on someone else and start calling others out, understand that what you had to go through to get a test script is NOT what everybody went through. And it really sucks for you if you had to run those loops just for a little test from your doctor. Hehe. Get a new Doc dude or move... You had to pay $1500 for this? Wow..

Where i live in (US) there are so many options to getting a doctor to prescribe for you its crazy. I got tons of buddies that go to a sport doctor and pay out of pocket. He then gives you scripts and sends you around the corner to pharmacy friend. lol... Like i said, if thats what you went through to get a little test script, I really, really feel for ya... Cheers dude...