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    Quote Originally Posted by thisAngelBites View Post
    Sorry if I misrepresented your view. You introduced the idea of being remembered and then discussed it at length, and said "Once you're dead and gone you're forgotten, your life held no meaning."

    In the context of all the discussion about being remembered, I read that literally as once you are a) dead (and gone) you are b) forgotten, (therefore) your life held no meaning. Meaning that if you were still alive (possibly), or dead and remembered, your life might have some meaning. Now I think I understand that you were not trying to say that, but perhaps you were doing something else like anticipating objections or something??? I don't know. But I hope you can understand the ambiguity, and we can drop the being remembered thing since none of cares about it.
    You're right, I was not trying to say that. The issue of "remembered" was just an example or something I used to try to share my point/view, it wasn't the foundation of my comments by any means.

    BTW, my comments about nothing being something - I wasn't comparing the two arguments directly. Roman's comment reminded me of the nothing is something argument. Aristotle and GFW Hegel among many others have discussed the topic of nothing being something to death...it's an old yet interesting argument, IMO. My point was simply anything that is nothing has been given a placed value, therefore, in the case of this topic, constitutes a belief since the belief is a value. Now if you take a more agnostic approach, not knowing, then sure you have not placed a value on it but that doesn't mean a value doesn't exist, there's still a belief that goes one direction or another even if you've chosen not to recognize the belief in either direction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metalject View Post
    Now if you take a more agnostic approach, not knowing, then sure you have not placed a value on it but that doesn't mean a value doesn't exist, there's still a belief that goes one direction or another even if you've chosen not to recognize the belief in either direction.
    I think we've perseverated on agnostic/atheistic thing enough for me. And I am am obviously having a very difficult time understanding exactly what your claims are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thisAngelBites View Post
    I think we've perseverated on agnostic/atheistic thing enough for me. And I am am obviously having a very difficult time understanding exactly what your claims are.
    I agree, the agnostic.atheist argument has been done to death in this thread, but I wasn't getting into that argument either. Maybe I'm having a difficult time expressing what I'm trying to say. Of course I understand what I'm saying perfectly since I'm the one saying it, lol! So I'll let it go at that.

    BTW, anytime you Brits post on here, for whatever reason in my head when I read the post it has an accent...it's somewhat entertaining. Feel free to hear banjo music when you read my replies since I'm from the deep south

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