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    People are truely comical. Just for sake of comparison in a different industry, I am in the insurance business. About once every 12-18 months someone will test positive for cocaine on there urine test for life coverage. Virtually without exception the response to the failed test is "someone must of spiked my drink" I dont do cocaine. The first time or two I would kinda listen but after 20 plus years its so predictable. Another when someone fails the nicotine test, they are about 99.9% accurate but 5-6 times a year I get to listen to someone angerly try to tell me the test is BS. All could be avoided if they were just upfront to begin with.
    Anyhow, LT, as stated above, i could only imagine how many people tell you its under dosed or they didnt get 10mls. I think they would be much better off if they just said they were running a litle experiment instead of lying.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by bullshark99 View Post
    People are truely comical. Just for sake of comparison in a different industry, I am in the insurance business. About once every 12-18 months someone will test positive for cocaine on there urine test for life coverage. Virtually without exception the response to the failed test is "someone must of spiked my drink" I dont do cocaine. The first time or two I would kinda listen but after 20 plus years its so predictable. Another when someone fails the nicotine test, they are about 99.9% accurate but 5-6 times a year I get to listen to someone angerly try to tell me the test is BS. All could be avoided if they were just upfront to begin with.
    Anyhow, LT, as stated above, i could only imagine how many people tell you its under dosed or they didnt get 10mls. I think they would be much better off if they just said they were running a litle experiment instead of lying.....
    I have no doubt believing people tell you some crazy things that make no sense when it comes to insurance. When a guy is running out significantly early and makes the "it's undefiled" comment, I always want to ask if that's the case, why isn't this an issue with the thousands of other men receiving testosterone from the same pharmacy and even the same batch? I have asked this before but I don't anymore, it only seems to make things worse and anger the patient, and that doesn't help anything.

    As far as being honest with your doctor if you are using more than you were prescribed, it's a touchy situation. The most common reason people give for doing this (if they admit it and some do) is that they feel better on that dose than the prescribed dose. Most level headed doctors will be willing to listen to the patient but it's usually going to come with a warning and a few requirements. If a patient does this early on in his treatment before having any followup blood work, there's going to be very little if any leeway. If a patient was RX'd say 100mg/wk but admits to taking 150mg/wk for the reasons stated, the doctor is probably going to explain to him he will need to get blood work done to gauge this change, if he doesn't the doctor may very well pull the patient's RX. And if numbers come back improper and the patient won't lower his dose back to where the doctor prescribed, he will drop the patient.

    The best thing to do is to be honest with your doctor if you have manipulated your dose a bit - he may scold you and he will drop you if you continue to do so, but he will usually listen to you and help you figure out what's best. Of course the better option is not to do this at all and work with what you have and allow changes to come the way they're supposed to based on followup blood work and conversations with your doctor, this guarantees you won't be dropped.

    Last little comment on this, the most common thing any doctor hears when a patient is doing things like this is this little gem "I know my body" or I'm in-tune with my body." That may be very true and I'll be the first to tell you that the laws surrounding testosterone may very well be a bit too strict, but they are still the laws and when you start messing with this you're messing with the doctor and his license and ability to practice is far more important to him than anything else - it has to be, otherwise he wouldn't exist and you wouldn't have an RX to begin with. I'm not sure why some patients can't understand this or refuse to accept it.

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