Physique goal to reach naturally before starting AAS?

[Sergio727]

Except for the whole risking permanently damaging his endocrine system and needing TRT for the rest of his life..

AKOG (just though of a dope nickname for your username btw), 25lb is 1.5-2 year kinds of gains.

There's a table with a very rough estimate of muscle gain potential in the first few years and it states the potential for muscle growth in the first few years of training: year 1, 20-25lb. Year 2, 10-12lb. Year 3, 5-6lb. Year 4+, 2-3lb.

Obviously this is going to vary depending on the individual and their state before starting (ie malnourished like I was and gained 30-35lb LBM in 15 months)

So by this table you should be close to 180 by now, which I would say is a great goal to aim for before deciding whether you also want to take the risks of cycling so young.

You told me i was wrong and restated the exact same thing as i did

[Khazima]

You told me i was wrong and restated the exact same thing as i did

You said it's irrelevant when he starts as putting on tissue is putting on tissue and I said age is very relevant? Not sure if I'm missing something.

[Sergio727]

My post had nothin to do with age. But for some reason you insist on saying everything i say is wrong

[Back In Black]

You said it's irrelevant when he starts as putting on tissue is putting on tissue and I said age is very relevant? Not sure if I'm missing something.

He is a lost cause mate. I'm happy for him to fvck himself up though lol

[AllKindsOGains]

He is a lost cause mate. I'm happy for him to fvck himself up though lol

If you are referring to me you have missed the whole point.

[Back In Black]

If you are referring to me you have missed the whole point.

If you bothered to read the reply Khazima was referring to you would know I wasn't referring to you.

[AllKindsOGains]

If you bothered to read the reply Khazima was referring to you would know I wasn't referring to you.

Well thanks then