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    Quote Originally Posted by derekkpapa1
    What does your cycle look like?
    So my first cycle consists of Bayer Testoviron, 250mg x2 a week for 10 weeks.

    The Testoviron contains Test P and Test E so both a long and short ester.

    I have Anastrozole to take throughout my cycle,

    My PCT is Clomid and Tamoxifen.

    I actually chose not to use HCG, I know some people are going to burn me for this but as it's my first cycle I thought against using it just to see how many body reacts during and after the cycle.

    My next cycle will consist of the same but I'm going to throw in HCG and see the benefits. I will use this during my cycle.

    I'm debating wether or not to stack another in my second cycle, I may or may not just because I want to monitor how my body reacts with the HCG and the benefits of usages.

    I know there is a thread in regards to the importance of HCG in cycle, but I would rather compare and first hand experience it for myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dghartley View Post
    So my first cycle consists of Bayer Testoviron, 250mg x2 a week for 10 weeks.

    The Testoviron contains Test P and Test E so both a long and short ester.

    I have Anastrozole to take throughout my cycle,



    My PCT is Clomid and Tamoxifen.

    I actually chose not to use HCG, I know some people are going to burn me for this but as it's my first cycle I thought against using it just to see how many body reacts during and after the cycle.

    My next cycle will consist of the same but I'm going to throw in HCG and see the benefits. I will use this during my cycle.


    I'm debating wether or not to stack another in my second cycle, I may or may not just because I want to monitor how my body reacts with the HCG and the benefits of usages.

    I know there is a thread in regards to the importance of HCG in cycle, but I would rather compare and first hand experience it for myself.

    HCG can only help on-cycle. It increases the chances of a full recovery and makes your overall experience on cycle a bit better by ensuring that you have 1 less thing to worry about. I was really against using HCG for my first cycle as i've read on many pages, forums, etc. that say you don't need it and they don't understand how it got introduced into bodybuilding circles for on-cycle support. There were answers swaying me every which-way.

    I put my trust into the vets on here who have been cycling since i was a baby, and know their stuff, who suggested i use
    HCG on cycle. I used it for all 3 of my cycles and will continue to do so. I don't exactly know what standing i would be in without taking it, but i don't need to

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidtheman100
    HCG can only help on-cycle. It increases the chances of a full recover and makes your overall experience on cycle a bit better by ensuring that you have 1 less thing to worry about. I was really against using HCG for my first cycle as i've read on many pages, forums, etc. that say you don't need it and they don't understand how it got introduced into bodybuilding circles for on-cycle support. There were answers swaying me every which-way. I put my trust into the vets on here who have been cycling since i was a baby, and know their stuff, who suggested i use HCG on cycle. I used it for all 3 of my cycles and will continue to do so. I don't exactly know what standing i would be in without taking it, but i don't need to
    Don't get me wrong I will be using HCG, but I'm more of a hands on kind of guy.

    I value the instructions of the vets, they know what they're on about that's for sure.

    From the sounds of it HCG is very beneficial but I would really like to see first hand with and without. When I first started at the GYM I was told what exercise did what muscle etc, but I spent weeks just doing 1 exercise a day, waking up in the morning and figuring out what muscle ached and where it was based in my body so I could get a better understand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dghartley View Post
    Don't get me wrong I will be using HCG, but I'm more of a hands on kind of guy.

    I value the instructions of the vets, they know what they're on about that's for sure.

    From the sounds of it HCG is very beneficial but I would really like to see first hand with and without. When I first started at the GYM I was told what exercise did what muscle etc, but I spent weeks just doing 1 exercise a day, waking up in the
    morning and figuring out what muscle ached and where it was based in my body so I could get a better understand.

    I understand your point of view, as i'm the same type of person. But there is a fine line between trial and error with training styles, and trial and error with highly recommended/must-have on cycle support. When you start cycling you lose some innocence in a sense. If you fvck yourself up permanently, you cannot just change it up and make things better as you could if you weren't getting results from one exercise and decided to do the other. Catch my drift?

    Either way though, i hope your cycle goes well and that you make some gains and come out healthy/recover fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidtheman100
    I understand your point of view, as i'm the same type of person. But there is a fine line between trial and error with training styles, and trial and error with highly recommended/must-have on cycle support. When you start cycling you lose some innocence in a sense. If you fvck yourself up permanently, you cannot just change it up and make things better as you could if you weren't getting results from one exercise and decided to do the other. Catch my drift? Either way though, i hope your cycle goes well and that you make some gains and come out healthy/recover fine.
    Yeah I understand completely buddy,

    But pro's have been cycling years without HCG, once again though thanks for the input and HCG I'll be added to my next cycle.

    Thanks bro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dghartley View Post
    I actually chose not to use HCG, I know some people are going to burn me for this but as it's my first cycle I thought against using it just to see how many body reacts during and after the cycle.
    You chose poorly. Read Austinites sticky if you haven't. I'll paraphrase a line of his: "you don't put your seat belt on after the accident" do you?


    Quote Originally Posted by dghartley View Post
    Don't get me wrong I will be using HCG, but I'm more of a hands on kind of guy.
    You will soon be a "hands on small nuts" kind of guy. Listen to the guys above. You're getting good advice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dghartley View Post
    So my first cycle consists of Bayer Testoviron, 250mg x2 a week for 10 weeks.

    The Testoviron contains Test P and Test E so both a long and short ester.

    I have Anastrozole to take throughout my cycle,

    My PCT is Clomid and Tamoxifen.

    I actually chose not to use HCG, I know some people are going to burn me for this but as it's my first cycle I thought against using it just to see how many body reacts during and after the cycle.

    My next cycle will consist of the same but I'm going to throw in HCG and see the benefits. I will use this during my cycle.

    I'm debating wether or not to stack another in my second cycle, I may or may not just because I want to monitor how my body reacts with the HCG and the benefits of usages.

    I know there is a thread in regards to the importance of HCG in cycle, but I would rather compare and first hand experience it for myself.
    If that's an ester blend you'll want to inject EOD.
    Last edited by HawaiiLifr; 11-30-2014 at 10:03 AM.

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