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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    hCG is suppressive! Since we know that hCG mimics LH, then we know that in the presence of exogenous LH, the pituitary gland will not produce LH.
    Where this information come from? As I know LH can be suppressed by only androjens and can increase by gnrh which come from hypothalamus. Is there any negative feedback system between gnrh and lh?
    And if your information is right why damn company says use this drug for hipogonothropic patients. Why urologist dont let petients to produce their "natural" Lh if it could supresed by hcg?
    By the way sorry for my first information. I didnt try to say hcg can increase lh. I just want to say if hcg works on cycle if leyding cells produce testo at least we have to see an increase on blood.
    On article which marcus shared there was an increase by 500ui/w hcg on 200mg/w testo cycle. And I am wondering now if 500 hcg ui/w wasnt not enough on my 500 mg testo cycle. Maybe this why I couldnt see testo increase. And another thing is if it works on cycle it doenst mean you cant use it post cycle which make more sense
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    Quote Originally Posted by xzed View Post
    why damn company says use this drug for hipogonothropic patients.
    To kick start the gonads.

    Hypogonadism can be primary or secundary, primary is directly related to the testis, secundary can have a variety of reasons.

    So many ppl have already tried to tell you that HCG is used on cycle to maintain some testicular function so that when its time to restart the testis it will be easier. But of course this is not 100% sure like everything in medicine.
    It seems you don't want to understand...

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    Quote Originally Posted by xzed View Post
    Where this information come from?
    Pretty much any medical study........
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Pretty much any medical study........
    He's 19yrs old and probably ****ed his natural test levels up anyway, just let him get on with it he doesn't understand what we are trying to explain. Lost cause imho.

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    If you are on a cycle, your natural test is going to be suppressed via the exogenous testosterone in your system. Any endogenous test made by the testes from the HCG is going to be minimal addition ( barely detectable if at all), so using bloodwork to show an increase in test is going to be useless while on a cycle. The key usage for using HCG on a cycle is to keep the testes working period, has nothing to do with increasing test levels while on a cycle.
    They way that the docs are using the HCG is to supply the body with LH because for some reason the body isnt making testosterone/LH. There are few studies done regarding HCG and its usage during a cycle but there are a few key ones that really support the usage of HCG on cycle ( one has already been linked previously).

    I am really lost at what you are asking and what you are confused about.

    And PLEASE use proper grammar and spelling, that makes it even harder. and its hYpo not hIpo... thats just bothersome


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemonada8 View Post
    yea been busy w/ surgery n other rotations n workin on residencies ( tryin to go into gen surg or ENT)... so my life is pretty much at the hospital now
    Glad it's working out for you Lemonada.
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