Hard to believe that the Industry will no longer be able to sell prohormones!!

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Well said. The big issue here is that in the last two years, MOST of the new companies popping up are knowingly adding "steroids" to their products and calling them "prohormones". They are NOT prohormones, they are "Designer Steroids" and dont even need to convert once inside the body.

Everyone wants to get rich quick and that means that most will not research or know hardly ANYTHING about what they are doing before doing it. They simply look at another new company that is gaining traction and do exactly what they are doing. This means copying formulas of other products without knowing the first thing about the effects or dangers or even the legality of the substances.

I am a HUGE believer in small government, but when you have a bunch of idiots running wild in the streets and who value money over the health of people using their products, we need those people to be controlled. Unfortunately, controlling those idiots causes a ripple effect and puts more control on the people who are smart enough to govern themselves.

Go around the web and look at the ingredients of many of these "prohormones" and then go look at the written descriptions on the website. They tell the viewer straight up that these products are steroids and they brag about how potent it is or how closely it resembles "Tren" or Dbol. Dumb and VERY short sighted.

There will be a lot of BROKE ASS supplement company owners who had a very nice run at the good life and who probably didnt save a single dime in the process. I would hate to be the guy who made a million, blew it, didnt prepare for the inevitable and now I work at a car dealership selling Toyotas...

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Well said. The big issue here is that in the last two years, MOST of the new companies popping up are knowingly adding "steroids" to their products and calling them "prohormones". They are NOT prohormones, they are "Designer Steroids" and dont even need to convert once inside the body.

Everyone wants to get rich quick and that means that most will not research or know hardly ANYTHING about what they are doing before doing it. They simply look at another new company that is gaining traction and do exactly what they are doing. This means copying formulas of other products without knowing the first thing about the effects or dangers or even the legality of the substances.

I am a HUGE believer in small government, but when you have a bunch of idiots running wild in the streets and who value money over the health of people using their products, we need those people to be controlled. Unfortunately, controlling those idiots causes a ripple effect and puts more control on the people who are smart enough to govern themselves.

Go around the web and look at the ingredients of many of these "prohormones" and then go look at the written descriptions on the website. They tell the viewer straight up that these products are steroids and they brag about how potent it is or how closely it resembles "Tren" or Dbol. Dumb and VERY short sighted.

There will be a lot of BROKE ASS supplement company owners who had a very nice run at the good life and who probably didnt save a single dime in the process. I would hate to be the guy who made a million, blew it, didnt prepare for the inevitable and now I work at a car dealership selling Toyotas...

I keep coming back to this, but in it's day, Andro was a pretty good PH. It provided a fairly decent benefit, and the sides were low. I think I purchased 100 grams for under $100 and I was on a steady diet of it for extended periods. No issues with BP, or any obvious detriments to common blood panels. No testicular shrinkage, no issues with ED or gyno. It was one of several times in my life with fairly low BF% and right at 250lbs. I was pretty happy with it TBH. That was something like, I don't know, maybe 15 years ago?

But think about it. It became a prohibited substance, which opened the door for lesser quality products to be marketed. With less benefit and higher risk of sides. When you get right down to it, some of the shit out there is fairly toxic with long term use.

So this whole fiasco was created by big brother government in the first place. Had they left well enough alone, we'd still have Andro, which is a fairly safe PH. But you cannot legislate away demand for a product. It's like a 9 headed Hydra. Chop off one head, and three more take it's place. We learned our lesson with alcohol, and it seems, possibly with marijuana. But some of the ignorant meatheads we have in congress? It seems they think they can resolve issues by creating law. But it is the "Law of Unintended Consequences" that they fail to consider.

So now they want to completely do away with PH. It makes you wonder what will replace it? Something of even less benefit and more risk of sides I'm sure.

Government is counter intuitive. A smart government realizes that it is the very people who are best positioned to make intelligent decisions, and therefore they shy away from being intrusive. Only an arrogant and naïve government can think it is smarter than the people that put them in office in the first place, and foolishly think they have better decisioning ability than the population at large.