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    Quote Originally Posted by Metalject View Post
    Fine, some do but as a whole the muslim society is silent.
    Do u realize that many middle eastern countries are in direct war with ISIS ?
    What are we supposed to do beside supporting the war against those and putting our guys on the line of fire?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rida5d View Post
    Do u realize that many middle eastern countries are in direct war with ISIS ?
    What are we supposed to do beside supporting the war against those and putting our guys on the line of fire?
    Syria fights ISIS because a tyrant doesn't want to lose his dictatorship role.
    Turkey, largely muslim, has pretty much sat on the sidelines. Sure, they have spoken out against ISIS but words are hollow.
    Iraq - that one I'll give you fully.
    Iran, will fight if it has to but only because it wishes to be the true big bad wolf.
    The rest of the middle-eastern governments, I don't see how they're helping or hurting, more or less just existing like Turkey.
    Pakistan - all terrorist welcome

    But the bigger issue is not countries/governments, it's the muslim people's lack of fighting against the terrorist. They allow safe-haven, often financial support, media outlets, etc. Sure, they may not be actively killing anyone but that's the only difference.

    And the even larger issue, the one already stated yet continuously ignored - muslim terrorist are the ones causing havoc all over the world, not christian terrorist, not hindu or buddhist terrorist, not any other religious group. I think a lot of people would be more sympathetic to the muslim and middle-eastern plight if the people themselves would simply acknowledge both verbally and with action this problem. I know I would be far more sympathetic if that were the case.

    And I have to somewhat LOL at all the media comments in this thread. Yes, various media outlets are biased one way or another...I'm sure bias exist in midd-easter media outlets too. But the core problem doesn't require any bias. If a man walks into a building screaming "praise to Allah" while he kills everyone he can, that's a pretty easy call and takes no media involvement to understand.

    Lastly, the oil/money comments, I wish people would give this a rest. These comments are usually nothing more than what someone has read from some internet blog and normally come from blogs where people read them because they like the writers opinion. The U.S. does not desire instability in the middle-east. The U.S. did not go to the middle-east for oil in Iraq or Afghanistan and anyone who thinks that is an outright idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rida5d View Post
    Do u realize that many middle eastern countries are in direct war with ISIS ?
    What are we supposed to do beside supporting the war against those and putting our guys on the line of fire?
    Unfortunately a lot of people in America outside of major cities don't have dealings with Muslims. I live in NYC. I have a decent amount of Muslim friends. I hear the stories and they are just as disgusted with the extremist. Before I lived in NYC when 9-11 happened I made the nuke/parking lot comment. I was young and had never really been around anyone outside of Irish/Itailian Catholics. So its easy to get sucked into that thinking especially when the media is all about muslim terrorists.

    Where do you stand on the application of Sharia Law in countries outside the middle east?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rwy View Post
    Unfortunately a lot of people in America outside of major cities don't have dealings with Muslims. I live in NYC. I have a decent amount of Muslim friends. I hear the stories and they are just as disgusted with the extremist. Before I lived in NYC when 9-11 happened I made the nuke/parking lot comment. I was young and had never really been around anyone outside of Irish/Itailian Catholics. So its easy to get sucked into that thinking especially when the media is all about muslim terrorists.

    Where do you stand on the application of Sharia Law in countries outside the middle east?
    I think that believes/religion is something personal between you and god.. And no one should be forced to follow what u believe in , to each his own..

    And to make me answer complete, I believe in this , outside the Middle East and inside..

    Lots of folks here in the Middle East , think the same way.. And I mean by lots = majority


    The good thing is that in some places in the world ,and for some people , religion is the last thing you look at when you chose a friend or help a person..

    I volunteered to aid refugees in my country , and I was honored to help lots of non Muslims, Muslims or any one in need..

    I m a person who can go in a fight with another person if I see him beating a dog., what about a human being?

    As u saw here earlier in the thread , someone said he was ready to shot me for a bmw , even though , I didn't do him any harm, so the question to such sick person , how much does it cost to make you shot your own father or mother? May be a Ferrari?
    What's the difference between that guy and those radicals?? They do it for stupid ideas , he ll do it for the bmw?

    Human life is too precious to be evaluated for money.. I think like this , and I ll never change the way I think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rida5d View Post
    I think that believes/religion is something personal between you and god.. And no one should be forced to follow what u believe in , to each his own..

    And to make me answer complete, I believe in this , outside the Middle East and inside..

    Lots of folks here in the Middle East , think the same way.. And I mean by lots = majority


    The good thing is that in some places in the world ,and for some people , religion is the last thing you look at when you chose a friend or help a person..

    I volunteered to aid refugees in my country , and I was honored to help lots of non Muslims, Muslims or any one in need..

    I m a person who can go in a fight with another person if I see him beating a dog., what about a human being?

    As u saw here earlier in the thread , someone said he was ready to shot me for a bmw , even though , I didn't do him any harm, so the question to such sick person , how much does it cost to make you shot your own father or mother? May be a Ferrari?
    What's the difference between that guy and those radicals?? They do it for stupid ideas , he ll do it for the bmw?

    Human life is too precious to be evaluated for money.. I think like this , and I ll never change the way I think.
    Well said.

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