Is America Still America?

[j3374]

This is true and should concern all of us.

Sometimes I turn from Foxnews to another channel to see how the left is covering the story. THEY AREN'T EVEN COVERING THE STORIES.

I asked a liberal buddy of mine what he thought about the IRS targeting conservative groups. He said "I haven't heard about it". He considered himself fairly informed. But the likes of MSNBC chooses not to cover these stories. Instead they find something to cover that fits their narrative of 'old gray haired men are evil.

Have you considered the possibility that neither party is telling the entire story? I've heard from several FOX viewers on this thread so far that claim that the liberal news stations are not covering the whole story. Do you really think that FOX is covering all sides in a "fair and balanced" manner, like it claims to? Are you sure you value objectivity and truth over having your already formed beliefs affirmed over and over again?

Both sides of the story have its own self benefiting narrative and censorship. If you don't try to balance your news from both sides AND include some public or independent sources, you're only getting propaganda.

I don't think this country is what it once was either. In some ways, it needs to change. The world is different than it was when our country was formed. People are more informed and complex. Technology has changed the playing field and the way we do things.

Change is inevitable. In some ways, I think we've made progress. In many ways, we've veered way off course. I hope over time that we'll self correct and take back control over our country. Before we can do this, though, we'll need to address our own accountability issues, I think.

We need to educate ourselves. Not just through college, but pay more attention to what's going on. As a society, we "self medicate" with reality shows, televised sports, video games and shopping. Our forefathers paid attention to what was going on in the world, even though their sources of information was very primitive and slow.

We need to start caring enough to get involved. A few of us care enough that we get fed up and are outraged. Most of us are apathetic and distract ourselves with the above mentioned distractions. When Americans start taking up arms and wanting to form militias to take back control, I always think, "why don't you take other measures that are afforded by our form of government?" Only a minority of us vote. We complain, but don't demonstrate. Private interest groups can have an impact. Heaven forbid we give up our own personal precious time and volunteer to make a difference.

We have to stop fighting each other based on political party ideologies. The more informed we are and learn who to listen to for empirical data, the more we learn what the truth is from the propaganda. It's okay to stay neutral on an issue until we're convinced with solid evidence and thoroughly informed. So many of us get our info from these biased, corporate news sources. We KNOW that money is the source of many of our problems, yet we loyally subscribe to a specific source that gets its power from the same corporate greed. That makes us part of the problem.

[Juced_porkchop]

Have you considered the possibility that neither party is telling the entire story? I've heard from several FOX viewers on this thread so far that claim that the liberal news stations are not covering the whole story. Do you really think that FOX is covering all sides in a "fair and balanced" manner, like it claims to? Are you sure you value objectivity and truth over having your already formed beliefs affirmed over and over again?

Both sides of the story have its own self benefiting narrative and censorship. If you don't try to balance your news from both sides AND include some public or independent sources, you're only getting propaganda.

I don't think this country is what it once was either. In some ways, it needs to change. The world is different than it was when our country was formed. People are more informed and complex. Technology has changed the playing field and the way we do things.

Change is inevitable. In some ways, I think we've made progress. In many ways, we've veered way off course. I hope over time that we'll self correct and take back control over our country. Before we can do this, though, we'll need to address our own accountability issues, I think.

We need to educate ourselves. Not just through college, but pay more attention to what's going on. As a society, we "self medicate" with reality shows, televised sports, video games and shopping. Our forefathers paid attention to what was going on in the world, even though their sources of information was very primitive and slow.

We need to start caring enough to get involved. A few of us care enough that we get fed up and are outraged. Most of us are apathetic and distract ourselves with the above mentioned distractions. When Americans start taking up arms and wanting to form militias to take back control, I always think, "why don't you take other measures that are afforded by our form of government?" Only a minority of us vote. We complain, but don't demonstrate. Private interest groups can have an impact. Heaven forbid we give up our own personal precious time and volunteer to make a difference.

We have to stop fighting each other based on political party ideologies. The more informed we are and learn who to listen to for empirical data, the more we learn what the truth is from the propaganda. It's okay to stay neutral on an issue until we're convinced with solid evidence and thoroughly informed. So many of us get our info from these biased, corporate news sources. We KNOW that money is the source of many of our problems, yet we loyally subscribe to a specific source that gets its power from the same corporate greed. That makes us part of the problem.

Fox news is a joke... I hope everyone knows and sees that...

[Rwy]

Fox news is a joke... I hope everyone knows and sees that...

Some people on this forum think its gospel. Its mind boggling. i have watched my father who once retired sat on his butt (deserved it after busting his ass) watching TV. He has been watching Fox all day and he has become so negative.

Anyhow The reality is two party politics has failed. The people need to take the power back and the system needs to be re-vamped. How thats done, I have no clue. Liberals buy votes by giving minorities money, and Republicans buy votes through the street, big business and religion.

[Metalject]

Some people on this forum think its gospel. Its mind boggling. i have watched my father who once retired sat on his butt (deserved it after busting his ass) watching TV. He has been watching Fox all day and he has become so negative.

Anyhow The reality is two party politics has failed. The people need to take the power back and the system needs to be re-vamped. How thats done, I have no clue. Liberals buy votes by giving minorities money, and Republicans buy votes through the street, big business and religion.

The issue with the two party system in the U.S. is simply that the two parties are largely identical. There really is very little difference. Sure, they may have some differences on certain social issues, but the stances on those talking points are simply made to gain votes. But think about it, elect a republican or democrat, either one, and this is what you get:

*Spending and more spending along with irresponsible spending.
*Insane tax laws - whether one thinks various tax rates are reasonable or not the laws themselves are moronic.
*Tremendous regulation - where the regulation occurs might vary somewhat depending on the party, but overall you end up with insanity.
*Larger government
*Politicians who buy votes (both parties do this equally, democrats have just become a little better at it on the presidential side)
*People who tell you how to live your life
*Bailouts - both are equally guilty.

Where is the difference?

Another issue, why the two party system is failing, because individuals expect government to do things for them. Our system isn't set up for government to fix anything. It's not the governments job to create jobs, it's not their job to provide anything beyond national security. It's governments job, in the U.S. to get out of the way and allow you the choice to take care of yourself. That's why America worked so well and unlike any other country before with so much success and that's why it's now failing, because government no longer does this.

We are a country founded on the idea that man has the right to take care of himself. It may not always work out but he is free to choose for himself the steps he takes. And government was viewed as a necessary evil to protect this right, nothing more. But we've reached the place like every other nation where we expect government to take care of us in some way. We no long wish to rule ourselves, we have asked to be ruled and that's what we've gotten.

[likelifting]

Some people on this forum think its gospel. Its mind boggling. i have watched my father who once retired sat on his butt (deserved it after busting his ass) watching TV. He has been watching Fox all day and he has become so negative.

Anyhow The reality is two party politics has failed. The people need to take the power back and the system needs to be re-vamped. How thats done, I have no clue. Liberals buy votes by giving minorities money, and Republicans buy votes through the street, big business and religion.

It's not gospel to me. The videos of people like Gruber talking about how to get obamacare passed, in his own words, is what is important to me.

I wish other news outlets would do some actual reporting instead of kissing up.

The Benghazi murders are horrible. We wouldn't have got that news if not for investigation.

I want to know what my government is doing. MSNBC doesn't do crap.