Standard Contest Cycle - Not Newbie Friendly

[Metalject]

I agree with most of the advice above...most of the items are good to go for prep show, i ask one question why short esters before long esters during prep...at the end of the day once ester is release its all test, which is why i run long esters most the time...the only question i have is why T3 with hGH?

I recommend T4 and for the purposes of the public i will simplify...hGH reduces T3s activity in the body, so naturally we want to add T3, however it improves T4 conversion to T3, so the ideal step to follow is to add T4 which will be more more efficiently converted to T3 which in turn will increase the T3 to offset reduced activity...i hope this makes sense...

Whether using long or short esters, if doses are getting higher I prefer smaller every other day injections. It simply seems easier to control in terms of side effects and simply the way you feel. At least that's been my experience. Sure, you could use Deca instead of NPP, no big deal. The way I listed it above is simply my own personal preference.

And yes, you are right, at the end of the day test is test regardless of the ester. I've never gotten caught up in the ridiculous notion that certain esters cause less water retention.

The T3 thing - you're right, HGH can reduce T3. Does T4 conversion to T3 improve? Sure, how much I don't know. But if you simply add T3 you've still fixed the same issue. Regardless of the method you still end up with more T3. Personally, I've only used T4 a few times...actually maybe only twice, but there could be another time I'm not remembering. I simply preferred T3. Anyway, whatever works, whatever works for you is the main thing.

[MIKE_XXL]

Thats why i like open forums and posts from guys such as your self and other knowledgeable members, its always interesting to see why other people do things different and learning alternate protocols...i know it was said here before but there is no single way to administer these compounds, its kind of like raising kids, i have 3 and all of them require different approach when it comes to discipline as well as reward systems...

Whether using long or short esters, if doses are getting higher I prefer smaller every other day injections. It simply seems easier to control in terms of side effects and simply the way you feel. At least that's been my experience. Sure, you could use Deca instead of NPP, no big deal. The way I listed it above is simply my own personal preference.

And yes, you are right, at the end of the day test is test regardless of the ester. I've never gotten caught up in the ridiculous notion that certain esters cause less water retention.

The T3 thing - you're right, HGH can reduce T3. Does T4 conversion to T3 improve? Sure, how much I don't know. But if you simply add T3 you've still fixed the same issue. Regardless of the method you still end up with more T3. Personally, I've only used T4 a few times...actually maybe only twice, but there could be another time I'm not remembering. I simply preferred T3. Anyway, whatever works, whatever works for you is the main thing.

[Metalject]

Thats why i like open forums and posts from guys such as your self and other knowledgeable members, its always interesting to see why other people do things different and learning alternate protocols...i know it was said here before but there is no single way to administer these compounds, its kind of like raising kids, i have 3 and all of them require different approach when it comes to discipline as well as reward systems...

Yep, plenty of good ways to do things. There's not one magical stack that works better than any other. But there are definitely better stacks...if that makes sense.

[MR-FQ320]

And yes, you are right, at the end of the day test is test regardless of the ester. I've never gotten caught up in the ridiculous notion that certain esters cause less water retention.

Would many on this board agree with you ?

[MIKE_XXL]

Would many on this board agree with you ?

If they don't, then they don't understand the bio-mechanics of esters. Ester is a carbon chain, which is attached to test and simply regulates the speed of release of testosterone. Once the ester is separated from testosterone molecule all test is test...different esters have different weight which in turn can effect the quantitative amount of test left after the ester is released.

but bottom line test will always be test once ester is gone...no exceptions...