fat guy needs some help on steroids

[Java Man]

I was looking for some info on a higher BF and taking steroids. I am about 28 percent body fat now. I have lost over a 100 pounds. My diet has been clean since I started and I have had my blood pressure checked and some how even though I use to be that fat it is in great shape. My goal is to build some more muscle while burning off this last part of my fat. I have looked into ordering first cycle and if I do I will take a anti estrogen and pct. My chest has tighten completely up just got that stubborn belly fat. My goal from the start is to compete not for anybody else but for me. Im 26 years old and do 30 mins of cardio everyday and lifting weights 6 days a week. I have put on some good gains just hoping steroids will allow me to train harder and recover faster. I will take steroids but wanting to know if I could now. And the if there is any side effects of having a higher BF percentage other than BP and GYNO thank yall

People always mention blood pressure but rarely (not in this thread yet at any rate) but the more important issue is hyperlipidmia/cholesterolemia (high cholesterol). Higher bf tends to go hand in hand with high cholesterol. Anabolic steroids raise LDL and lower HDL. Double whammy. Many who are overweight also have signs of insulin resistance this puts themvat higher risk for developing type 2 diabetes. You can get all of that down by getting your bf% below 20%. Lower is even better. It is true that I did a Recompisition cycle when I was overweight as I mentioned but I already had many years of training, knowledge, and ASS use in my history. I knew what I was doing and applied it, and it worked. This is not a beginner's advised course if action.

My advice to you OP is continue dieting and eating low fat, high protein foods below your maintenance calories until you get down below 20, preferably 15 or so. Then get a metabolic panel to check your liver, kidney, cholesterol profile. If it looks good, do a low dose test only cycle (low dose is subjective, so I'll state 500mg weekly). Take hCG throughout the cycle to keep your leydig cells functioning so they don't 'dry out' , and do a proper pct to get things back on track HPA wise afterwards. But not until you've assessed your body with the mentioned blood tests.

GL. And please don't cycle at 38% if you care about your cardiovascular health.

[Chicagotarsier]

People always mention blood pressure but rarely (not in this thread yet at any rate) but the more important issue is hyperlipidmia/cholesterolemia (high cholesterol). Higher bf tends to go hand in hand with high cholesterol. Anabolic steroids raise LDL and lower HDL. Double whammy. Many who are overweight also have signs of insulin resistance this puts themvat higher risk for developing type 2 diabetes. You can get all of that down by getting your bf% below 20%. Lower is even better. It is true that I did a Recompisition cycle when I was overweight as I mentioned but I already had many years of training, knowledge, and ASS use in my history. I knew what I was doing and applied it, and it worked. This is not a beginner's advised course if action.

My advice to you OP is continue dieting and eating low fat, high protein foods below your maintenance calories until you get down below 20, preferably 15 or so. Then get a metabolic panel to check your liver, kidney, cholesterol profile. If it looks good, do a low dose test only cycle (low dose is subjective, so I'll state 500mg weekly). Take hCG throughout the cycle to keep your leydig cells functioning so they don't 'dry out' , and do a proper pct to get things back on track HPA wise afterwards. But not until you've assessed your body with the mentioned blood tests.

GL. And please don't cycle at 38% if you care about your cardiovascular health.

Type II Diabetis is not a magical disease. If it is due to insulin resistance then the best thing they can do is get fat down. Fastest way is via stimulating the A receptor in the fat cells...test and Tren do this exceptionally well.

Anyway there is no data saying that test is bad on higher body fat people...because it is only used for hormone replacement therapy. So when you say..cycling is bad at higher BF..there have never been any tests of this sort and...there have been no notes of issues of cycles being bad on BF over 15%. I always point to the 600 mg cycle for 20 week test in the Endo journal...no issues with some all the way up to..you guessed it..28%

So

Do your labs

Take your BP

You will know the real score

[Mr.BB]

Type II Diabetis is not a magical disease. If it is due to insulin resistance then the best thing they can do is get fat down. Fastest way is via stimulating the A receptor in the fat cells...test and Tren do this exceptionally well.

Anyway there is no data saying that test is bad on higher body fat people...because it is only used for hormone replacement therapy. So when you say..cycling is bad at higher BF..there have never been any tests of this sort and...there have been no notes of issues of cycles being bad on BF over 15%. I always point to the 600 mg cycle for 20 week test in the Endo journal...no issues with some all the way up to..you guessed it..28%

So

Do your labs

Take your BP

You will know the real score

So are you advising higher fat ppl and diabetes patients to take test and tren cycles??

[NACH3]

Type II Diabetis is not a magical disease. If it is due to insulin resistance then the best thing they can do is get fat down. Fastest way is via stimulating the A receptor in the fat cells...test and Tren do this exceptionally well.

Anyway there is no data saying that test is bad on higher body fat people...because it is only used for hormone replacement therapy. So when you say..cycling is bad at higher BF..there have never been any tests of this sort and...there have been no notes of issues of cycles being bad on BF over 15%. I always point to the 600 mg cycle for 20 week test in the Endo journal...no issues with some all the way up to..you guessed it..28%

So

Do your labs

Take your BP

You will know the real score

As I don't agree w/cycling at higher bf%.... I'm glad to hear that you were ABLE to do so, safely... - congrats on your work!

While your wealth of knowledge is vast, and you've definitely done your research as to cycling period... & on higher bf(yes you have been successful - and many others too, but its not something to suggest) is all I'm saying... Just due to the instant gratification that the younger generation wants!

Again congrats on your work Chicagotarsier! Keep at it my man!

[Java Man]

Type II Diabetis is not a magical disease. If it is due to insulin resistance then the best thing they can do is get fat down. Fastest way is via stimulating the A receptor in the fat cells...test and Tren do this exceptionally well.

Anyway there is no data saying that test is bad on higher body fat people...because it is only used for hormone replacement therapy. So when you say..cycling is bad at higher BF..there have never been any tests of this sort and...there have been no notes of issues of cycles being bad on BF over 15%. I always point to the 600 mg cycle for 20 week test in the Endo journal...no issues with some all the way up to..you guessed it..28%

So

Do your labs

Take your BP

You will know the real score

You quoted me in your post. What in my post is incorrect and please cite verified sources of your refuting of what I said.

Thanks.